Post #51
T99PUG wrote:
how much work is needed to do this i wonder how much of the good side of 200bhp you would see with bike bodies alongside pockets and PT81's?
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 markylee
Regular  Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 22:54
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #52
basically cut you std inlet in half, source a set of bodies, space them the correct distance apart then join them together, fabricate a throttle linkage and few other bits...theres more to it than that but you get the idea |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 22:58
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #53
T99PUG wrote: I'm more of a buyer than a maker basically cut you std inlet in half, source a set of bodies, space them the correct distance apart then join them together, fabricate a throttle linkage and few other bits...theres more to it than that but you get the idea |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:03
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #54
i'm more of the opposite lol. I'm sure someone here would make something for you. If 190-200bhp is your goal then cheapest option i can see is cams and remap |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:06
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #55
Here is the thread.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:07
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #56
T99PUG wrote: i think so too i'm more of the opposite lol. I'm sure someone here would make something for you. If 190-200bhp is your goal then cheapest option i can see is cams and remap |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:07
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #57
stan_306gti6 wrote: Here is the thread. didnt 'Yanni' (greek chap) end up with over 200 on GSXR bodies and remap? |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:13
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #58
T99PUG wrote: jeffers wrote: markylee wrote: t99 pug what sort of cost in pocketed pistons Speak to Martin (crf450) on here or Allen Allen his side kick, they can pocket standard pistons they did mine for me. I can't remember how much it cost to be fair (maybe £100 but dint quote me on that) but pocketed standard pistons allow fitment of slightly more aggressive cams ie pt81's but they can be correctly and safely timed up due to the deeper pockets. Hope this helps!  how much power/torque did you end up with My engine is not yet finished however Denis (Russian guy on here) has a proven plus I have passenger ed in this car on several occasions, 195 bhp without bodies but he does have a modified inlet... I'll ser if I can find the thread! *edit* read Denis's thread, it's most interesting and very well informed! http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=131945 Hope this helps!  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:28
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beez_neez_gt
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Post #59
bigbadbowen wrote: Cams, head work + throttle bodies  And a 4-2-1 manifold which im told can gain some where around 10bhp more ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 23:33
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Project D
Newbie  Location: Finland, Turku Registered: 16 May 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
Post #60
I have spend lot's sleepless nights and reading horror stories about cams and skimmed heads. I ordered Newman PH2 camshaft and i want to know will they fit unskimmed head?? Car is GTi-6. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 01:37
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #61
stan_306gti6 wrote: You could always go for some bike throttle bodies, 'Peugeot96' on here is doing this at the moment. It will be a lot cheaper than going down the Jenvey route, especially if you fabricate some parts yourself. I'm mid doing this exact thing along with my new engine build.... Which reminds me I must update my project thread......  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:01
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #62
I've a Colin Satchell inlet with bike bodies on setup by Sandy Brown. 175bhp at the wheels so circa 200 at the fly I would assume.________________________________________  |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #63
Which bike bodies Dan?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:07
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #64
jeffers wrote: Have you got a link to your thread, I'd be interested in copying er I mean seeing what you've done stan_306gti6 wrote: You could always go for some bike throttle bodies, 'Peugeot96' on here is doing this at the moment. It will be a lot cheaper than going down the Jenvey route, especially if you fabricate some parts yourself. I'm mid doing this exact thing along with my new engine build.... Which reminds me I must update my project thread...... |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:09
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #65
stan_306gti6 wrote: Which bike bodies Dan? GSX-R1000. Any Excuse. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:16
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #66
Is anybody doing a thread on bike throttle bodies |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:29
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #67
dangti6 wrote: That sounds epic mate, looks like it pulls like crazy too. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:47
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #68
dangti6 wrote: Nice ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 19:59
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #69
dangti6 wrote: I've a Colin Satchell inlet with bike bodies on setup by Sandy Brown. 175bhp at the wheels so circa 200 at the fly I would assume. Nice is that cammed as well? |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 20:13
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Standard cams. I had an engine with catcams here at the time which I could have used but decided to use my existing unit as it just felt better. Sandy had a route around the top end and commented that it had been regularly serviced and felt lively enough. If I do anything else engine wise I think it may be a lightened flywheel when I change my gearbox. I cannot stress the importance of a decent map. I drove the car to Sandy and it ran fine on the existing map which was loaded. After he had made his adjustments it was like driving a different car. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 20:47
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #71
what do you all think about pocketed pistons ,cams and a remap |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 21:06
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #72
Good shout, but will still cost you 1200 I recons if your doing it properly. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 21:08
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markylee
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Post #73
rallyeash wrote: Yeah I was expecting that, still think its cheaper and less work than tb's Good shout, but will still cost you 1200 I recons if your doing it properly. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 21:10
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #74
Cheaper at that cost if doing youself but not less work. Can you map the standard ecu to suit though or would you need standalone ecu Totally agree on the map comment as has mine mapped twice and totally different between the 2 maps I've had and 14bhp different as well (2nd session was power run at first and made 1bhp before mapped so should be accurate figures) |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 21:22
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #75
It will be yeah. If your taking the bottom end apart how about this 88mm steel crank from a XUD S16 pistons and rods Pocket pistons Fast road cams Remap from chip wizards. would be 2044cc I think from memory Would produce good power and a nice torquey lump. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 21:25
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