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kenny phase1

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After much thought today and a bit of ringing arond getting prices for a well built N/A motor iam really thinking do i go low boost?? iam stripping the 6 out and just going to have two bucketts.. who can shed some light on the pros and cons of the low boost conversion????????????????Thumbs up

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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 22:31
roland rat

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I can shed some light if you kindly purchase forum membership for just £5

if your not willing to do the above then FOYC Thumbs up
Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 23:28
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 23:31
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 23:31
mattgti6phase2

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Or if your too poor to afford membership like me then don't worry, plenty of people will help Thumbs up

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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 23:42
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too poor to afford membership but shopping for low boost Wink

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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 23:54
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Or if your too poor to afford membership like me then don't worry, plenty of people will help Thumbs up


you must be a pretty miserable guy if you cant adfford £5

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Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 12:40
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Pro's:

~250bhp that is reliable and driveable

Cons:

Cost

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Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 13:11
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mcfc1987 wrote:
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Or if your too poor to afford membership like me then don't worry, plenty of people will help Thumbs up


you must be a pretty miserable guy if you cant adfford £5


I thought you wanted a refund? LOL

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  • Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 13:14
    SteviePut

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    You could email the supercharged 6 creater RichW. I'm sure he has an email address in his sig Smile

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 13:30
    ian7675

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    There's probably hundreds and hundreds of pages of info about this if you search.

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 13:33
    mcfc1987

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    dangti6 wrote:
    mcfc1987 wrote:
    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    Or if your too poor to afford membership like me then don't worry, plenty of people will help Thumbs up


    you must be a pretty miserable guy if you cant adfford £5


    I thought you wanted a refund? LOL


    Was never gonna worry about the actual cost. it was more me being awkward and making a point

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 13:51
    mattyrallye

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    If I was you pal I would stick with the NA route. I think it is the best way to tune.

    The superchargers are ok in principal but to be honest they lack in torque, and I still (personally) do not agree with the way they are set up.

    At lest going along with bodies and cams you can get a great noise, good USEABLE power from low down (ie not good performance post 50 mph like the charger).

    My two pence mate.

    If I was to do any work with my Rallye I would go N/A and not waste my money on a charger.

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 15:15
    welshpug!

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    BODIES FTW

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 15:29
    gtisid

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    dont think i have ever heard anyone say a bad word about the s/c conversion until now. I have been in a few and they do seem quickish but no where near scooby/evo quick. The high boost is another ball game, it is awesomely quick. but i have often thought it is too much for a 306. saying that though i have not heard of any failing and rich has taken care of all the bits that fail because of all that power, ie bushes. i am pretty sure the gearbox is a weak area with high boost but that can be sorted by shot peaning the gears.
    In all you are looking at about 10 k for a fully sorted high boost which i think you would do well to get any where near the low boost for a fully sorted n/a engine. The low boost is a compromise on throwing 5-6 k on a moderately sorted n/a engine.

    the low boost s/c is also reliable power too, dont think you would get that with a half baked n/a engine. I can see the argument though as i had a 220hp n/a engine in mine but to be honest it was a pain in the asse, the s/c conversion was in its infancy though at that stage so i did my own thing and bought a ready made engine, but on reflection i wish i had the s/c conversion. i would probably still have had it if i had.
    so the choice is
    250hp with not much fuss or hassle on alow boost
    210 hp with a 4-5 k engine rebuild ( that is how much it is going to cost if you just mess around with cams and valves and exhaust and pay someone to do it )
    8-9k for 250 hp for a fully sorted bottom end sorted head and remapping ( probably struggle to get that too unless you change the crank)

    or a pretty reliable 360hp for 8-9 k on a tyre shredding high boost conversion another grand if you get the gearbox shot peaned too.

    think my prices are about right, most are from memory i am sure i will be shot down if they are wrong

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 15:52
    fatlapit

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    i would do a turbo conversion then if you want more beans turn the nob

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 16:02
    simonjames

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    Only down side of having a low boost is wanting to high boost it

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 16:05
    billyboy99

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    simon, i just noticed your mobile number...306*306..? loser!!!!!!!! Thumbs up
    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 16:06
    simonjames

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    LOL

    when i originaly had it i had 6 306s hence the 306 6 306, came across it on ebay whilst searching for 306 bits, bought it for £4 delivered stuch £10 credit it on it used the credit and transfered number to 3 (beter coverage here)

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 16:11
    greenbelt

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    Post #20
    simonjames wrote:
    Only down side of having a low boost is wanting to high boost it


    +1

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 17:00
    mattgti6phase2

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    mcfc1987 wrote:
    you must be a pretty miserable guy if you cant adfford £5


    Yes that's why i'm here.

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 17:44
    davedgti6

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    As one of the first "6" owners on here to go down the supercharged route I thought I'd give my biased opinion lol,

    The low boost charger conversion for me is pound for pound the cheapest way to big power, it's easier to do than other conversions, you have 250 bhp power after the conversion and makes cams and throttle bodies seem a bit of faffing about Imo (although bodies sound nice), also low boost will give you a 0-60 time of around 5.5 secs (think Bmw 335i quick) and that is quick and feels quick, you would have to spend a lot more going down other tuning options to achieve the same power,

    Only downside of low boost is the itch to go high boost lol, although this can be thought of as an advantage as to go high boost you don't have to change any of your kit (maybe intercooler) and you can simply buy or build another engine, drop it in with quaiffe etc and you've got 400bhp, took me a month to go from low boost to high boost once I had bought all the bits,

    In short Imo the supercharger conversion is the sensible way to go if you want big power and is easily upgradeable once you want even more power, the car can feel pretty standard if driven slowly and is still reasonably economical if driven sensibly, just don't add up all the receipts once you have gone high boost though LOL and remember you never get back what you have paid out on modified cars if you come to sell, although its still less than the depreciation on nearly new cars once they roll off the forecourt.

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 18:24
    mattgti6phase2

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    I agree low boost FTW!!

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    Posted 11th Nov 2011 at 18:36
    aaron6

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    Cams and bodies ftw

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    Posted 12th Nov 2011 at 10:24
    chrisgti

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    i would go cams and bodies mate the sound track you with them is the best sound you can get

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