Post #126
haha that cant be the same thing you had off me 2 weeks ago 
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 roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 26th Feb 2016 at 09:38
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #127
roland rat wrote: haha that cant be the same thing you had off me 2 weeks ago Yes it is & the Engines with Sandy for 12months time collection going 2.2  |
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Posted 26th Feb 2016 at 09:41
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roland rat
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Post #128
Day666 wrote: roland rat wrote: haha that cant be the same thing you had off me 2 weeks ago Yes it is & the Engines with Sandy for 12months time collection going 2.2 Cool still got the sump and Xsara jet washers safe here for you bud!  |
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Posted 26th Feb 2016 at 09:51
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Day666
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Post #129
roland rat wrote: Day666 wrote: roland rat wrote: haha that cant be the same thing you had off me 2 weeks ago Yes it is & the Engines with Sandy for 12months time collection going 2.2 Cool still got the sump and Xsara jet washers safe here for you bud! Top man |
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Posted 26th Feb 2016 at 10:00
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Day666
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Post #130
last time for the (first) time some 130-135 oil temps at Combe were appearing ?I was Not 100% happy with that on track last time ....seeing as I have a 16 row cooler with good air flow to it with my oil being Millers nano 10w-40w .... my Mocal thermostat sandwich plate ...i think it's not opening enough at 80 degrees ...can't be messing with it I'm just changing it . Changed it over to a fully open Mocal Sandwhich plate now...I then haven't got to worry about if it's opening 100% or not... I'll just have to warm the engine up a little more before using it on track . Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 26th Feb 2016 at 23:29
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #131
Have you thought of changing to a 10w 50 or 10w 60? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 00:02
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phillipm
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Post #132
Thicker oil will just make it run even hotter. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 01:16
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #133
phillipm wrote: Thicker oil will just make it run even hotter. It's not thicker Phil.... ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 01:21
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #134
Sorry il reword that, it's not thicker per se, basically it will break down at a higher temperature. Mine on track runs cooler with a 10w 50 in it.... The 10w 40 was running hotter and the pressure was visably lower after2-3 laps. Plenty of people run a 10w50 or 60 in track cars?Oh balls, I know what I'm trying to say but not wording it very well, il try again in the morning when I'm not so tired!  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 01:39
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #135
The idea is to run a thicker oil to keep you at the same viscosity as the thinner oil at 'normal' temperatures, but a thicker oil in and of itself will increase temperatures, especially in the bearing shells.Ideally you stick to the thinner oil and control the temperature, if you can't do that, you shift to thicker oil to compensate. 50-60w is definately thicker than the 40w he's running though  And he's running decent oil so high temp breakdown shouldn't be an issue, certainly not with a 40w, perhaps with 5w-20 or similar with low HTHS figures but not that Millers. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 01:47
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #136
Thank you Jeffers & thank you Phillip for your great knowledge ...I'm always wary of changing oils as it seems what you gain one place you seem to lose in another ?I'm worried the Valve has somehow gone faulty & not opening fully & may be partially stuck or something ? My reasons which I didn't make clear MY FAULT / SORRY ....I haven't removed & tested it yet but ...... When I came in on 4-5 occasions at Combe after some really heavy 15 or so laps my Oil cooler was only just warm to touch & it used to get very hot ...it was a warm day ...my oil temperature has only ever maxed 120-125 ... Last time without anything changed inc oil 130-135 & nearly hit close to 140 ... First of all I thought faulty reading but no I believe it's the Thermostat in the Mocal playing up ... I'll try this fully open curcuit one & see if it makes a difference ? I really will only be doing Action days & track days now 90% of the time so warming the oil up shouldn't be a issue ....ill just have to let it tick over on start up a little longer |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 07:52
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #137
Let us know how much longer it takes to warm up the oil mate. I'm also tempted to remove my mocal thermostatic sandwich plate when my 16 row cooler replaces my 13 row one. But I use my car as the daily so need it most likely.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 08:56
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #138
aaron6 wrote: Let us know how much longer it takes to warm up the oil mate. I'm also tempted to remove my mocal thermostatic sandwich plate when my 16 row cooler replaces my 13 row one. But I use my car as the daily so need it most likely. Was told 10mins & should be 15-20 cooler ...lets hope & I'll update you when I know 110% Arron .. |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 09:40
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #139
I had a problem with my mocal plate sticking ive sorted it now by cleaning up the ports and shuttle oil temps are good now round combe at around 100c as was 130+ before http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=164228 |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 09:45
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #140
cully wrote: I had a problem with my mocal plate sticking ive sorted it now by cleaning up the ports and shuttle oil temps are good now round combe at around 100c as was 130+ before http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=164228 Thinks by about it, I stripped my thermostatic plate and did the same as Cully and the temperatures dropped last time out... I put it down to it being November and freezing cold but thinking about it now cully's fix has probably sorted the issue.... ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 12:56
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #141
That's Brilliant Cully I'm still going to try mine with out & take mine apart Now |
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Posted 27th Feb 2016 at 18:38
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Day666
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Post #142
Old Bilsteins removed today & Drivers side has been badly damaged by my Fire including my Goodridge brake hose ....going to ring Bilstein Monday & see if they can help ...Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:05
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Day666
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Post #143
Top mounts fitter with Suspension today & they work great / Russian Guys design is Amazing . Just got to modify my top brace now to fit New mounts Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:24
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roland rat
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Post #144
Looking good poppit |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:11
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #145
Just got to plumb in the swirl / pump / filter all rubber mounted with Goodridge 881 PTFE / Stainless braided hose with JIC6 fittings ...Both Pipes to fuel rail in the engine bay will go down Passeger side inside car on P clips ... I'll build a metal box to go over the Swirl etc ...like a fire wall ... Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:17
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Day666
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Post #146
Been busy since 7.00am this morning ...These are Twangy / Wayne's door panels & rear panels he made me I fitted them as well today ..amazing quality & great price ..I did them in Matt finish as it shows less marks & I personally like the look better .Used Stainless steel Screws to fix them Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:42
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Day666
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Post #147
jeffers wrote: cully wrote: I had a problem with my mocal plate sticking ive sorted it now by cleaning up the ports and shuttle oil temps are good now round combe at around 100c as was 130+ before http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=164228 Thinks by about it, I stripped my thermostatic plate and did the same as Cully and the temperatures dropped last time out... I put it down to it being November and freezing cold but thinking about it now cully's fix has probably sorted the issue.... I'll send you mine if you like Jeffers ? I won't be using it again . Just waiting for my fuel tank hose connecting fittings ...big thank you Cully ...I'm pinching your great idea then no chance of petrol fumes then |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:45
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #148
roland rat wrote: Looking good poppit It's starting to get there Ash Won't be ready this month though .... Aprils my dead line m8 hopefully ... |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #149
fuel system is not ideal, needs to be boxed or underneath.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 16:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #150
derp, missed you were going to box it ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2016 at 17:00
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