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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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I have just got back from a couple of ![]() ![]() Let’s bear in mind the budget cannot be ridiculous and it cannot be too hardcore ![]() ![]() Discuss ![]() ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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When I saw the title I thought this was a jimmy hackers thread.________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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![]() aka JKshooter ![]() Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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Bonnet isn't pedestrian friendly so would never be allowed. /thread.Party pooper FTW. ________________________________________ ![]() |
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![]() Techno Viking ![]() Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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Cam chain would be a start.________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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I really liked that Singer 911 on Top Gear. The 306 is a nice looking car, much better than those awful ugly overstyled things they make now. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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![]() aka JKshooter ![]() Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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When you build the Rallye, could you please actually make it a bit more special? Perhaps lose the ABS. Widen the track, different spoiler, better splitter etc.________________________________________ ![]() |
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![]() Capt Pedantic ![]() Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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ian7675 wrote: Cam chain would be a start. sod cam chains, that's the main cause of the problems with the current PSA engines ![]() better pistons, more compact gearbox, upright rear dampers. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: When I saw the title I thought this was a jimmy hackers thread. ![]() ![]() ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Melksham. Wiltshire. Registered: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 2,516 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Stronger pulleys and idlers. -25 mm ride height and 16" cyclones as standard. Subtle Rear diffuser. Slightly more snazzy wheel arches perhaps, better made aircon pipes. Interior.. I still think a phase 3 interior is nicer that most modern 306 equivalents on the market currently, so no change there. I guess that just about covers it for me ![]() ________________________________________ 2005 Peugeot 206 GTI 1802008 BMW K1200R |
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dangti6 wrote: When you build the Rallye, could you please actually make it a bit more special? Perhaps lose the ABS. Widen the track, different spoiler, better splitter etc. These are good ![]() ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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welshpug! wrote: ian7675 wrote: Cam chain would be a start. sod cam chains, that's the main cause of the problems with the current PSA engines ![]() better pistons, more compact gearbox, upright rear dampers. Engine wise i guess we would go with one of the PSA/Mini jobs ![]() Rear dampers for sure, fairly cheap and simple to do now. Maybe i won't be chating to PhillipM about supplying me though hehe. Did he ever get those finished? Would have to give him a job though, he's like Macgyver locked in a shed ![]() ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Post #12
pebbles167 wrote: Stronger pulleys and idlers. -25 mm ride height and 16" cyclones as standard. Subtle Rear diffuser. Slightly more snazzy wheel arches perhaps, better made aircon pipes. Interior.. I still think a phase 3 interior is nicer that most modern 306 equivalents on the market currently, so no change there. I guess that just about covers it for me ![]() ![]() ![]() Not sure i completely agree on the interior though. While it generally has aged well i think the materials used could perhaps be improved and some more sporty seats would be nice. The 306 lacks a decent finish, still trying to figure out the best way to repair the air bulge in my dash ![]() ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Rework the underside for aero, rework the rear beam (it's a heavy POS) and run a better ratio on the dampers, probably widen the track under some flared arches, and lengthen the wheelbase slightly to match newer cars in it's class for size. Do that at the front by running the subframe in front of the engine so you can pull the engine back and down a few inches.Drop the heavy calipers up front for 4-pots with suitable pads, and slap a better caliper on the rear so the bloody handbrake works. Have someone with half a clue redo the wiring looms, and finally strengthen the sills and the a-pillars as there's a fair bit of chassis flex, and the bulkhead behind the master cylinder so it doesn't try to pop out of the grill when you hit the brakes hard. And then have some decent rustproofing and paint on the damned things so the sills, roof and rear arches don't get tinworm/lacquer peel. I would love to get hold of a brand new shell, and about 10 grand of spare cash to build one ![]() And yes you cheeky bas**rd, I did get the rear Foxes finished, they've just been floating around on various garage queens for the past few years ![]() ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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phillipm wrote: And yes you cheeky bas**rd, I did get the rear Foxes finished, they've just been floating around on various garage queens for the past few years ![]() You are on the official supplier list ![]() Would you go with upper and lower strutbraces as standard? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I'd go with a new/stiffer lower subframe and some sheet metal work to tie the upper mounts into the chassis better in the first place________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #16
The 306 dash I always thought wasn't great, maybe a better one of those. On the outside it is still a great looking car though. For the Rallye version the fol differences from the standard GTI: 16" C5 lightweight "steelie" alloys painted some sort of grey colour. Maybe some extra chassis stiffening and better torsional rigidity like seam welded subframe and an upper strut brace. VTS 2.4 turn lock-to-lock steering rack. And 10 - 20 more bhp/lb ft than the standard GTI to differentiate it, as well as 20mm lower and standard Bilsteins. Maybe a half-leather interior with Rallye flash centres. Red seat belts. Decent leather steering wheel with thumb grips. Slightly widened wheel arches to go with the wider track. Black mask headlights. EDIT: some people got in with similar ideas to those in this post while I was typing. Also agree with better underbody aero. I'm doing some of that with mine. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Melksham. Wiltshire. Registered: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 2,516 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I think jamma started a thread like this a while back and ended up getting flamed ![]() Some nice ideas here, wouldn't widening the track be fairly expensive for peugeot?, as the 6 would be a proper stand alone model then. Oh another thing to ad, I'd love it if they made 6's in agean blue! ![]() ________________________________________ 2005 Peugeot 206 GTI 1802008 BMW K1200R |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #18
More modern dash. Loose the gear linkage system in favour for a cable system. Maybe a hydraulic clutch (although not as stupidly light as most modern cars). Seats i would change as little as possible styling wise but they need more support especially for us taller people! |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,213 Status: Offline |
Post #19
most of whats needed already been said.... but tbh most modern cars.....have a ipod conector or bluetooth....basically a fancy stereo and not a lot else more than wat the gti has already. a work college (woman) asked my why i dont want a nice new car. and like topgear explained. for 400 quid i get some ballaches, but i also get leather seats, electric windows, air-con, and the ownership of a classic. i told her try to get an equivalent spec showroom car for less than 10grand. even after what i spent fixing it im nowhere near 10 grand. i think she cottened on after that. i prefer the phase one styling myself, inside and out, it just looks more retro/classic.....all offense to the phase 2 and 3 as they look like they were aesthetically softened up in the re-designing room by a woman. colour coding bumpers and the softened up bodywork lines turned the gti in a girly looking car. only thing i like on the later phases is the stealth-speaker parcel shelf. p.s. also a steering wheel colum that extends would be nice ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Oh and proper steering wheel controls and maybe a nice perforated leather steering wheel with grips. But like the 206 gti wheel. |
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pebbles167 wrote: Some nice ideas here, wouldn't widening the track be fairly expensive for peugeot?, as the 6 would be a proper stand alone model then. Nah, couple of wider arches is the worst, mechanically it's pretty simple. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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200hp/180lbft, Quiafe diff, 4pots, quick rack, -25mm, better dampers, nice recaro seats, deeper dish and smaller steering wheel, stiffer shell. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys![]() 309 3dr K20 Type R |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: When I saw the title I thought this was a jimmy hackers thread. +1 ![]() ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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i too have the dream of them re releasing the 306________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Post #25
lose the s**tty rear beam and Gordon bars and have struts and coil springs________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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