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jimmyhackers

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Post #1
hello all. took her in for her test today and ho ho.......big list

fail reasons

1. park brake efficieny 12% (below requirements)
2. n/s front suspension air has excessive play in ball joints
3. exhaust emmissions carbon monoxide excessive after 2nd fast idle
4. exhaust emmisiions lambda reading outside specified limits after 2nd fast idle
5. n/s rear stop lamp dim

advisories

6 and 7. front brake hose slightly deterioated
8 both front wheel bearings have slight play
9 minor oil leak
10 vehicle undersealed
11 minor exhaust blow (front section cat)
12 slight corrosion (general)


all in all not......so bad.

here are my solutions

1. i think a new set of discs and pads are in order, old ones are pretty shot
2. ive dismanteled my suspension and got some new bits and will fit them tommorrow. the dealer gave me two types of balljoint and i will ask on another thread how to identify which one i need.
3 and 4. this was my prediction for failing. mechanics said it was weird it was jumping from barely illegal to totall illegal on the reader. im gonna try a new oil petrol and air filter first, then injector clean, then reluctantly a new cat Sad
5. LED BULBS SHOULD DIE!!!

7. the rear hoses look worse than the fronts :S
8. teh bearings have as much play as a 15 year old car should have.
9. shouldnt of cleaned my engine bay so well. its like the teeniest of dribbles.
10. what does this mean? my underseals bad or my underseal is insufficient?
11. gun gum and a new clamp shoudl fix the whole
12. as much rust as you expect on a 15 year old car


feel free to give me some constructive advice, take the p**s, or etc etc

cheers guys

jim

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 19:20
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Scrap it

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 19:51
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This sounds like a payday loan advert.

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 19:58
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Been looked after well Wink
Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 20:13
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Sounds like a shed to be honest, this wasn't the car that had the engine catapulted out of it by any chance was it? LOL

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:02
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If you had stayed on top of maintenance, you wouldn't have had half these problems Thumbs up

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:12
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Jimmy has not been entirely honest with us, just nicked this out of his glove box.

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:16
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Laugh my ass off

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:19
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Cry

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  • Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:20
    rich306

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    Post #10
    :rofl !!!

    Sounds like you haven't been looking after the car mate, surely you would've noticed things like your ball joints being knackered!

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    Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 22:44
    mik

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    Post #11
    Sounds like the knackered lambda probe has made the engine run rich which has knackered your cat. Or maybe not as I've been wrong once today. Actually I was wrong about being wrong - I was actually right so scratch that.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:02
    gilesy

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    I wish I knew what jimmyhackers looked like

    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:08
    jimmyhackers

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    Post #13
    no this is the one after the car of doom.

    thanks for all the p**s taking, still waiting for some constructive advice Smile

    its a shame i havnt got any pictures of it when i purchased it Sad if you have randomly please post one.

    this cars something i most definately saved/delayed from the scrap yard, an underdog of sorts. i feel in some way i owe it to this comunity to save it after ive already written one off. thats gotta be a good thing?

    its most definately a vast improvement in its current state. originally having naff blue orange peel respray, sticky accelerator, brakes that literally didnt work, f**ked leathers, naff lexus lights, broken remote central locking, horrific rear spoiler....the list of things ive fixed goes on and on

    i missed a few....shame they were the more important things (that cost money)

    its quite hard to "test drive" a car to notice certain faults when its not allowed on the road, its never had an mot under my ownership. ive been reluctant to drive it round the block every month or so to keep it fresh with 9 points after my last soiree with a lorry

    this mot was more a test of....im fed up of fixing random things, what do i actually need to fix

    the ball joints a weird one. its seemed to be able lock itself in one of two positions but still seem "fully functional" while locked in either one :s and thats my excuse.

    the nuts and bolts problems i can fix,

    so.... ill ask. do i hope an oil, fuel and air filter fix my emmissions, or do i bite the bullet and also get a new cat? could the emmission tester be jumping up and down due to a "misfiring/blocked injector"
    are there other things to check?. im not loosing coolant or oil into the cylinders (checked plugs) and i have fited a brand new unused new lambda sensor that was purchased long ago destined for my crashed car.

    thanks again

    jim

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:21
    jimmyhackers

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    gilesy wrote:
    I wish I knew what jimmyhackers looked like



    i look like this http://ohinternet.com/Techno_Viking

    pray i dont know what you look like

    Smile

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:23
    phillipm

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    Post #15
    "Front bearings have as much play as a 15 year old car should have"

    The amount you're thinking of there is 'none', even if it's 150 years old and the bearings are made from wood and leather strap...

    Your lambda sensor is/was f**ked and probably hasn't done the cat any favours.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:31
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    jimmyhackers wrote:
    pray i dont know what you look likeSmile


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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:32
    jimmyhackers

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    Post #17
    loving the mot photoshopage btw.

    bmw have robbed my idea. there is a f**k load of wasted heat energy in the exhaust manifold of every car. a turbo is a waste heat recycler so the concept isnt as ludicrous as everyone seems to think.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:38
    jimmyhackers

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    sorry phil. i left a few stories out as its pretty long as it is. the front bearings....have minimal/questionable/no play.

    my discussion with the garage man doing the test said they have play. i pointed out in the past ive ballached replaceing front bearings to no avail and subsequently the plays actually in the rod ends for my steering (while moving wheel/wiggling rod ends infront of him) but he stuck to his guns. and yeah that whats ended up on my certificate.

    ive p**sed you off in tha past before, i know, im sorry if ive come across as a knob. but i am. no hard feelings?

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 00:50
    phillipm

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    jimmyhackers wrote:
    loving the mot photoshopage btw.

    bmw have robbed my idea. there is a f**k load of wasted heat energy in the exhaust manifold of every car. a turbo is a waste heat recycler so the concept isnt as ludicrous as everyone seems to think.


    The concept isn't ludricrous, it's been used on industrial and marine engines for donkey's years.
    The implementation was.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 02:11
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    If I were you, personally I'd just replace pretty much everything you can - for the cost of a re-test (which I'm pretty sure they'll only do for free once, if at all) you can replace a lot of stuff.

    I'd do ball joints, all discs, handbrake cables, pads, anything else that could be dodgy. Whole lot probably won't cost you more than a couple of hundred quid, still cheaper than a basic service in a garage.

    I'd do all that, new lambda, then try the test again. If emissions are still knacked it's new cat time.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 07:24
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    Laugh my ass off @ Owain's genius MOT fail sheet...LOL

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 07:59
    matt evans

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    I lol'd at Gilesy and Owain.... Legends both of them!

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 08:28
    blacky

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    Post #23
    Try spraying some ad blue up the exhaust just before you take it for test,literally outside the garage,should sort it untill you can get yourself a new cat,ad blue is what we use on the wagons to keep the emmisions down so we can go into london,its just a trick i heard
    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 09:27
    rich306

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    Post #24
    Like already said mate, replace everything that you can to get it through, she's obviously worth it to you!
    You can't unfortunately question what's been put down on the fail sheet until you know it's been replaced and is sound.

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 11:06
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    Laugh my ass off

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    Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 11:07

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