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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #576
the S16 PAS bracket wont fit with the gti6 sump, dont know if the pump will fit, quite likely it'll bolt on but the pipe might be a different angle, heard you can persuade that round though.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
 Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 17:37
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #577
welshpug! wrote: the S16 PAS bracket wont fit with the gti6 sump, dont know if the pump will fit, quite likely it'll bolt on but the pipe might be a different angle, heard you can persuade that round though. Yeah, get a pair of good sized vice-grips at the base of the pipe and you can rotate it round. Best to do it once and once only though as it gets looser every time you turn it. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 18:04
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #578
Oh that must mean its got a s16 sump on it then, if the s16 and gti blocks are the same. Take it s16 has an ally sump then? Thanks for the info |
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Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 19:02
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #579
pugheaven wrote: Oh that must mean its got a s16 sump on it then, if the s16 and gti blocks are the same. Take it s16 has an ally sump then? Thanks for the info  The 6/Rallye has an ally sump  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 21:11
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #580
my bad, just realised i did cut the ac lugs off when i fitted the s16 mounts. |
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Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 21:55
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #581
Well my block, crank, pistons and rods went off to the machinists this morning to get sorted. Looking forward to getting it all built back up. I'm now in two minds as to the benefit vs cost of having the valves enlarged by 1mm and having the throats bored out to take advantage of the bigger valve area. Q.E.P quoted ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 21st Nov 2009 at 19:52
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #582
I think its better to spend the cash and regret it than not do it and then regret it  Get it done mate,in for a penny in for a pound. |
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Posted 21st Nov 2009 at 20:20
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #583
roland rat wrote: I think its better to spend the cash and regret it than not do it and then regret it Get it done mate,in for a penny in for a pound. Put another way, thats only five sets of solid rear beam mounts I have to sell...  (Or one second hand plasma cutter  )________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 00:32
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #584
Going to have all my parts back in time for the weekend, or so I'm told, so now I'm looking forward to spending the weekend carefully building my new bottom end. Still saving for the head work, but I think it will be worth the extra cash. Not much chance of completion before Christmas at this rate, but we'll see. Missing trackdays is killing me now, especially after reading all the posts about the last meet at Snetterton, more motivation is not going to be neccessary  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 00:36
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #585
I personally wouldn't bother with bigger valves having seen how far they can go on standard sizes.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 00:38
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #586
Having had a Head to this spec I wasn;t that pleased with the result really for the money I would go somewhere else now, 185 bhp with bodies and std cam's and std everything else.The valve seat's get machined and the chamber's get very little work, I was expecting a little more ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 01:55
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #587
miles wrote: Having had a Head to this spec I wasn;t that pleased with the result really for the money I would go somewhere else now, 185 bhp with bodies and std cam's and std everything else. The valve seat's get machined and the chamber's get very little work, I was expecting a little more who did that qep? |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 02:05
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #588
I would personally leave it, the gains for the money aren't all that, if you were competing and every last BHP was needed, then perhaps.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 02:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #589
even then, if Sandy can take a 2.2 to 280 bhp on stock Valves and says there's more to come, how much power do you really want  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 02:41
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #590
All of it! Come on, we've dropped a V10 in a kids climbing frame, what sort of question is that?! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 03:44
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #591
welshpug! wrote: even then, if Sandy can take a 2.2 to 280 bhp on stock Valves and says there's more to come, how much power do you really want I'm sorry, are you some form of homosexual!? For a second I thought you just asked how much power do I want? As if there is some sort of choice?  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 03:38
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #592
miles wrote: Having had a Head to this spec I wasn;t that pleased with the result really for the money I would go somewhere else now, 185 bhp with bodies and std cam's and std everything else. The valve seat's get machined and the chamber's get very little work, I was expecting a little more What did you get in terms of power? And were you on a similar spec engine? (high comp, fairly wild cams etc.) ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 03:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #593
daveyboy wrote: welshpug! wrote: even then, if Sandy can take a 2.2 to 280 bhp on stock Valves and says there's more to come, how much power do you really want I'm sorry, are you some form of homosexual!? For a second I thought you just asked how much power do I want? As if there is some sort of choice? well there is, though that is largely dependant on your wallet ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 03:44
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #594
welshpug! wrote: daveyboy wrote: welshpug! wrote: even then, if Sandy can take a 2.2 to 280 bhp on stock Valves and says there's more to come, how much power do you really want I'm sorry, are you some form of homosexual!? For a second I thought you just asked how much power do I want? As if there is some sort of choice? well there is, though that is largely dependant on your wallet It's wafer thin at the moment  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 03:46
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #595
I had a bit of free time on my hands (steady!) so I thought I'd play with my head! I know I'll have to do some of this again if I go down the big valve route, but just in case I don't I ported the head, got rid of all the casting marks, rough edges and smoothed the inlets as best as I could manage, no real stock removal as by all accounts the ports are more than big enough, so just some gentle fettling is all thats required really. Something very theraputic making about nice shiny ports...     ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 26th Nov 2009 at 06:27
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #596
you not taking the rest of the guides out??? |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 00:41
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #597
chris with a pug wrote: you not taking the rest of the guides out??? Not yet, I'm leaving the exhaust guides alone for the time bieng sa I may re-use them, I just ground off the small ammount they protrude into the port as it wont affect the length of the guide much. I want bulletised inlet guides though so I'm looking into that at the moment. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 14:31
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #598
Got the call from Owlsbury Crankshaft to say my engine is ready to collect, so I'm off to pick it up and relieve my wallet of the burden of another ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 02:58
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #599
Leading up to this I have had to content myself with reading up on what to do when I get my block back, interesting reading, and I'm left with probably more questions than answers, but hopefully it should help me avoid some of the more obvious mistakes... Anyway Saturday finally arrived and it was off to collect my block and crank from the machinists  all dad's plans of getting me to do some real work today went straight out the window as all I wanted to do was get started re-building my engine  First thing was to clean the old rust off the block in readiness for some painting later, colour choice WILL divide opinion...  This was followed by the application of a little rust killer.  Next I decided to check my ring gaps, this took some time to get right as some needed quite a bit of work to achieve the necessary gap, but I'm happy with them all now and have matched them all to their individual cylinders after filing the ends for a perfect fit.  After that it was time to install the main bearings and check that they had the propper crush height, as I really don't want to spin another one. I have to say I was pleased to find that they are all spot on, but at least I know for sure, thats one less thing to worry about on the next trackday!   By this time dad was getting very annoyed so had to pack it in and get some tidying up done in the shop, here's his happy face...   And after a day playing with engines, here's mine  (Not my best picture, but I haven't got a lot to work with...) All bagged up ready for round two...  Just need money for cams, valves, springs, mapping....... Next is to check fit the crankshaft, check for runout with a dial guage, then fit all of the mains one at a time and check to see if I have the propper clearance and no binding. Once that is out of the way, assuming the crank is good, I can fit all the conrods and rotate them to make sure they have the clearance needed too. Fun, Fun, Fun ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 16:26
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #600
You look like you've just found an old stash you'd forgetten about in the shelves ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 06:38
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