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 Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: quite unlikely the welding caused anything Well just spoke to Alex at DTA & he said DTA will be fine Mei ... Something blew a 5amp fuse & has lost my Mileage & Rev counter Mei ... I'd love to think coincidence....& I'd be happy .... It's my fault for on/off battery isolation  You live & learn more by your costly mistakes you never forget ...life lessons ...hope the new clocks sort it  |
 Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 11:02
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #27
you have lost mileagei suspect the clocks are bust my reasoning in this is the mileage is set in a chip and is rewritten electrically, i suspect the clocks have been fried with a welding voltage surge |
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Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 11:19
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
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cully wrote: you have lost mileage i suspect the clocks are bust my reasoning in this is the mileage is set in a chip and is rewritten electrically, i suspect the clocks have been fried with a welding voltage surge Paul your 100% correct m8 ...  Picked up 2nd hand phase 3 clocks for my phase 2.5 tonight & also tried them all on another car before I fitted then to mine to make sure that they all worked before I put them on mine, everything is working on mine now apart from rev counter and still can't check speedo until tomorrow. But since yesterday and today I'm getting extra stuff working each time but tonight's episode of changing the clocks for second hand phase 3s is the best result so far. Thanks for everybody's help, this is why I love this forum so much! P.S. Any chance of a wiring diagram for drivers side and passenger side door looms please? I'm trying to take out most of the wires I don't need apart from electric Windows |
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Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 16:59
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 17:47
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #30
those drawings are for a ph3 doorsthere is also the engine loom layout |
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Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 17:50
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #31
cully wrote: those drawings are for a ph3 doors there is also the engine loom layout Fantastic |
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Posted 19th Feb 2016 at 18:12
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #32
OMFG !!!!!!Guess what my Mechanic friend / Martin just discovered  Looks normal ???? Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 15:54
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
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Not when he opened it up !!!!Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 15:54
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
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The only reason He found it was he was getting 2.9volts where 12v should be & hey bloody presto  Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 15:56
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Need a new'un?________________________________________  |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:00
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Need a new'un? Got some here________________________________________ |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:00
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Magic Martin to the rescue! |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:09
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #38
dangti6 wrote: Need a new'un? Thank you Dan My Machanic m8 has a few ....we are just driving to his now to open a few up & check them first & back to mine ... |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:18
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #39
roland rat wrote: Magic Martin to the rescue! Ash .....this nearly beat even Martin !!!! He's never seen one go like that . He a clever bugger & wouldn't give in . You've met him so I'm sure you could see he's a switched on bloke with Peougets & has been in the game nearly 30yrs This may help others with similar problems? Haven't seen anything on here about Fuse box corrosion  Can I just say a big thank you to those of you that had many suggestions We did try them all & more 5-6 times over  |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #40
so nowt to do with the welding, just a bit of corrosion caused by damp!main reason I was particularly sceptical about damage caused to circuits when welding is that theres not much at all live wgen the ignition is off, which is a physical switch, as well as the fuses and relays. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:54
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #41
What about tracking back up the ground (earth) take it the ignition doesn't switch the earth ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:59
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Yeah Martin seems to know his shizz!Maybe worth fitting a heater if the fuse box is damp? |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 18:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Cjwatson27 wrote: What about tracking back up the ground (earth) take it the ignition doesn't switch the earth ? , you need a complete curcuit for any current to flow.... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 18:45
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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on the topic of mileage, can the chip be bodged or anything done to up the mileage? i want my new clocks upping by about 10k. i was tempted to try sending power to each of the various speedo plug wires and see what happens, but i suspect that would take a long time________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 19:16
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #45
welshpug! wrote: so nowt to do with the welding, just a bit of corrosion caused by damp! main reason I was particularly sceptical about damage caused to circuits when welding is that theres not much at all live wgen the ignition is off, which is a physical switch, as well as the fuses and relays. Nope nothing Mei ....what's the chances of that happening at the same time ?...unbelievable m8 Only the power to the Rev counter dash clock was caused by the Fuse board Mei All my other dash clocks were fried somehow though ...maybe the welding ....I still think that's my fault for not having a battery isolator that turned off & went faulty and my battery was on & connected when welding ...even though ignition would of been off .....who knows 120% knows Mei All I care about is its sorted 100% ....would never of looked inside the fuse box ...never ....ever Mei ... |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 19:47
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #46
roland rat wrote: Yeah Martin seems to know his shizz! Maybe worth fitting a heater if the fuse box is damp? That amount of damage Ash looks like it been there for a while m8 ...I've only had my heater out for a while I went to Maplins on the way back from Mechanic / Martins depot ...I bought PCB waterproofer & anti damp spray ...The new fuse board we fitted tonight could go under water now ...This ones out of a 40,000 car ...looks new inside & out |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 19:42
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #47
rikky wrote: on the topic of mileage, can the chip be bodged or anything done to up the mileage? i want my new clocks upping by about 10k. i was tempted to try sending power to each of the various speedo plug wires and see what happens, but i suspect that would take a long time Can you not ajust the Mileage via Peouget Planet ? |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 19:48
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #48
welshpug! wrote: Cjwatson27 wrote: What about tracking back up the ground (earth) take it the ignition doesn't switch the earth ? , you need a complete curcuit for any current to flow.... there would be a circuit if the fuseboad was tracking due to a short |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 19:59
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #49
cully wrote: welshpug! wrote: Cjwatson27 wrote: What about tracking back up the ground (earth) take it the ignition doesn't switch the earth ? , you need a complete curcuit for any current to flow.... there would be a circuit if the fuseboad was tracking due to a short Yes that makes total sense What a bloody pain it was ...had everyone stumped this one Thank God it's now Sorted & I really hope this tread may help other ...if anyone else is having problems they can't solve with FAQ I thought I was ok with electrics until this |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 20:22
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #50
cully wrote: there would be a circuit if the fuseboad was tracking due to a short And if you're using HF start on a TIG to weld plates in, that can give more than enough voltage to track across circuits on a PCB. However, there would have to be current flow from elsewhere at the same time to damage anything, as the TIG HF is only milliamps. May just be one of those things. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 22:00
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