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 Puggered
Junior User  Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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Well I've just bought a bianca 6 with an unidentified engine rattle. It's had new valves and lifters fitted by the dealer which didn't solve the initial tapping noise it had and has gone on to develop a loud rattle that increases with rpm before it was parked up. It hasn't snapped a belt or jumped the timing so no idea why you would change valves.any thoughts on the likely culprit? edit: this probably belongs in engines |
 Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 12:46
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mocinim
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Darkside of bedford :) Registered: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 2,307 Status: Offline |
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Check all your fittings bolts etc probablt something simple not refitted correctlyBest put a vid up if you can bud ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 12:50
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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mocinim wrote: Check all your fittings bolts etc probablt something simple not refitted correctly Best put a vid up if you can bud it's 400 miles away  |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 12:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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go an get it!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 13:02
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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I had a loose plug that sounded aweful but I fear you've bent valves if pug were looking to cure a tap I bet it's either thrown a belt in the past or the heads been off for some reason and a valve was bent upon refitting and the pug dealer didn't change all the bent valves and corresponding guides.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 14:05
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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squirrel in the airbox  |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 16:34
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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roland rat wrote: squirrel in the airbox Think a woodpecker is far more likely considering the noise ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 16:37
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Damaged guide or bent valve |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 16:39
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mocinim
Seasoned Pro Location: The Darkside of bedford :) Registered: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 2,307 Status: Offline |
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Puggered wrote: mocinim wrote: Check all your fittings bolts etc probablt something simple not refitted correctly Best put a vid up if you can bud it's 400 miles away Thats some f**king noise if you can hear it 400 miles away  ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 16:57
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6waysforward
Seasoned Pro  Location: Benfleet essex Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,168 Status: Offline |
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mocinim wrote: Puggered wrote: mocinim wrote: Check all your fittings bolts etc probablt something simple not refitted correctly Best put a vid up if you can bud it's 400 miles away Thats some f**king noise if you can hear it 400 miles away ________________________________________ ***Breaking*** Ph3 Silver GTI 6 High Boost |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 17:07
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: go an get it! Friday job. roland rat wrote: squirrel in the airbox I did consider this but realised we don't have squirrels or woodpeckers so it's probably got a dropbear in it. aaron6 wrote: I had a loose plug that sounded aweful but I fear you've bent valves if pug were looking to cure a tap I bet it's either thrown a belt in the past or the heads been off for some reason and a valve was bent upon refitting and the pug dealer didn't change all the bent valves and corresponding guides. I wouldn't put anything past a dealer, but the receipt does say 16 valves, guides and lifters cam belt etc. It's obviously done a belt at some point as noone in their right mind is going to change valves for the sake of it. The noise isn't a tap anymore, it's a full blown rattle that starts the moment it's fired up and seems to come from down low bigbadbowen wrote: Damaged guide or bent valve You'd hope not given the above work. mocinim wrote: Puggered wrote: mocinim wrote: Check all your fittings bolts etc probablt something simple not refitted correctly Best put a vid up if you can bud it's 400 miles away Thats some f**king noise if you can hear it 400 miles away I have acute earing  |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 21:50
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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If it's an early car with the three bolt top cam pulleys my bet would be one has failed.Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 21:55
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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mechanical_repairs wrote: If it's an early car with the three bolt top cam pulleys my bet would be one has failed. Carl it's a 1999, could still have them though, we tend to get the left overs done here. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2016 at 22:07
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Well thats a rattle |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 12:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
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Yep, needs head removing and further work - that's a top end tapper all day long.Can also tell by the speed of the tap which end of the engine it's coming from. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 14:45
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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Yep. As I said earlier, that got a bent valves and/or fooked guides. So it definitely needs it's head off. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 16:45
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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Looks a clean car from what I can see that's for sureCarl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 21:08
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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Yeah she's a tapper alright, damn I hate doing valves.It's surprisingly clean, Drivers seat gone in the alcantara, small shopping dent on left door |
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Posted 20th Feb 2016 at 22:27
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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Just get a non tapping engine and drop that in________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 11:19
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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aaron6 wrote: Just get a non tapping engine and drop that in Unfortunately they're not so easy to get hold of down here. she'll be getting a full rebuild, it could do with a clutch and bushes anyway. |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 12:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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err, your profile says somerset?!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 13:54
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,800 Status: Offline |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset,_Queensland________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 14:19
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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No wonder the car looked clean Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 19:28
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Puggered
Junior User Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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thats only a 3 day drive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset,_Tasmania |
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Posted 21st Feb 2016 at 21:30
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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Puggered wrote: Ah... I thought you were Somerset UK. Never mind. aaron6 wrote: Just get a non tapping engine and drop that in Unfortunately they're not so easy to get hold of down here. she'll be getting a full rebuild, it could do with a clutch and bushes anyway. Just make sure all the valves and guides are done and they don't bend any refitting the head ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2016 at 13:15
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