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 marksorrento205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Airborne in the lanes Registered: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2,223 Status: Offline |
Post #926
I have done a couple of 205 ones. Piece of p**s and work well. Corsa B is the better column to use imo.________________________________________ How to do a clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
 Posted 20th Jul 2016 at 19:50
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #927
Is there difference between corsa c and b? I have a c column. the thing that attracts me to it is that it's adjustable so can turn it off if wanted |
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Posted 20th Jul 2016 at 20:38
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #928
blandy wrote: Is there difference between corsa c and b? I have a c column. the thing that attracts me to it is that it's adjustable so can turn it off if wanted Get the knob ajuster off RallyWiz / Ireland not the Ebay Portugal bloke as they don't last & are open to the elements  I've been told 205 ones are loads easier to do than 306 ones I'll find out soon |
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Posted 20th Jul 2016 at 20:55
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marksorrento205
Seasoned Pro Location: Airborne in the lanes Registered: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2,223 Status: Offline |
Post #929
The b column just fitted the 205 a treat. I'm. Sure a c will fit with some fettling ________________________________________ How to do a clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 20th Jul 2016 at 21:03
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #930
Ok a little update ....I've received my Vauxhall second hand Corsa B electric powersteering & Power ajustment knob / small box ...The kits below & all looks straight forward enough apart from the obvious ignition barrel etc .. I'm going to have to buy a Momo Vauxhall Steering boss now to fit it  The ECU box is on the bottom left of the picture/ metal & black plastic ....it's easy enough to find a place out of site for it Uses 50amp fuse supplied Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 12:36
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #931
I've already worked out how the original Column Stalks will fit ..easy enough & they can be moved closer to the steering wheel with this method ...I have a wheel spacer see & the indicators are 30mm to far away for my liking ....I have had a simple idea to make a simple triangle spacer adaptor plate to bolt onto my original column support bracket because the angle of the Corsa B PAS if different to 306 standard one .. Pics to follow soon with prototype ....this way it just bolts on without having to remove the dash or Column support & can be removed for easy access .. Spare Column support bracket below used for making Spacer adaptor ...ill make a template out of cardboard first ...then Metal with x4 welded bolts after I'm happy the angle & idea is good .... Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 12:47
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #932
Picture below of Adjustable PAS Electric power steering knob ....Will fit Nicely on the Fibreglass dash ..don't buy Ebay ones ..they burn out ! The good thing is I will be able to design & fix my steering wheel angle to what I want ......it needs to come down 40mm as it is now & angle down a little Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 12:50
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Twangy
Senior User  Location: heswall Registered: 27 Jun 2014 Posts: 623 Status: Offline |
Post #933
keep us posted to show how you get on damien , and what you think off steering m8________________________________________ wayne mcardle |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 12:58
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #934
Looks good, keep us up to date. I will probably be doing the same shortly________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 13:48
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #935
Twangy wrote: keep us posted to show how you get on damien , and what you think off steering m8 I've been told even on the lightest assist setting its still far to light ? If that's the case I will just turn it off if I'm not on the road or driving it up Prescott where I needed it so bad ....fingers crossed ... I'm hoping as I have a phase 1 2.4 turn rack fitted it may be better ? This won't be fitted or really happening for 2-3 weeks as I've loads to do other than the car & I will start making the Bracket end of the week .. I will post as soon as I have product .... Not as quick as I normally do ...but sadly other things on at the mo  |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:30
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #936
demondriverdan wrote: Looks good, keep us up to date. I will probably be doing the same shortly Beware ! yours is a racing car Dan ....I've spoken to RallyWiz & they warned me it maybe too assisted & light even on the least assisted setting ? Ideally I wanted half the assist of the Hydralic pump standard one  It will stay on Mine as I really need it for the MOT /Road & Prescott ....a little steering assist at Combe wouldn't go a miss either  My MOT tester couldn't turn the wheel of drive it unless it was moving ...Sandy struggled getting it onto the Rolling road ...just a pain without PAS ... You feel the track better but at a cost of feeling like you've done a few rounds of Boxing .... |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:42
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #937
psss how have they wired the pot into the ecu loom??  |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:41
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #938
Yea, it's a risk it'll be too light. Whatever I do I'll make sure it's reversible so I can put a standard column back in if I want to.I only want a bit of assistance, I get knackered in the car after a stint sometimes and would like a little bit of help. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:43
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #939
You have the other trouble too with a race car - if you're on sticky enough slicks you can overpower them and the unit will switch off. Good for puckering seats mid corner. Mind I think you'd struggle to mount something wide and sticky enough on a 306.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:45
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #940
cully wrote: psss how have they wired the pot into the ecu loom?? They have two wires into ajustable switch ....orange small ignition on /off switch feed & (+) permanent into ajustable switch then from the ajustable switch three wires ( brown / White / Green ) with white plug in picture to ECU ... The Blue plugs just 50amp feed (+ & - ) into ECU Into ECU the Green plug & black small plug in picture is from PAS steering itself Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 16:13
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #941
Easy enough to make for you Cully Day666 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 16:15
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #942
im guessing there is some extra electronics in the box with the switch pot, as it needs to produce a varying frequency pulse to feed to the PAS ecu, this is for speed ref to enable the varying assistance |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 16:47
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #943
cully wrote: im guessing there is some extra electronics in the box with the switch pot, as it needs to produce a varying frequency pulse to feed to the PAS ecu, this is for speed ref to enable the varying assistance I'm not 100% sure ? All I was told was all the switch does is the same as you said with speed ....the faster you go the less assistance it would normally give on original car & the switch overrides this & keeps it from changing if it was in the original car ... Freq Pulse sounds familiar It changes it with MAGIC |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 16:58
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #944
Will be interesting to see what you think. I think it's worth a shot, if it's crap then I'll take it off and sell it  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 17:08
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #945
the corsa has several assistance maps in the ecu dependant on V/speedim guessing the switch just picks one of them via frequency pulse or off just found a very good page on how to make it progessive without the switches http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/blog/corsa-c-electric-power-steering-epas/ |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 17:18
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #946
demondriverdan wrote: Will be interesting to see what you think. I think it's worth a shot, if it's crap then I'll take it off and sell it It won't fit the standard 306 fixing column in the picture below & the steering knuckles / connecting rod to steering rack won't fit ....so a fair bit of fabricating & welding needed....I wouldn't mess around with cutting & shutting to much Dan I'm just making adaptor plates so I can fit that & remove in 30mins & fit old if needed |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 17:18
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #947
cully wrote: the corsa has several assistance maps in the ecu dependant on V/speed im guessing the switch just picks one of them via frequency pulse or off just found a very good page on how to make it progessive without the switches http://www.super7thheaven.co.uk/blog/corsa-c-electric-power-steering-epas/ Great read & I have one of those nasty boxes |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 17:28
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #948
My 106 hydraulic pump is still providing resistance and feedback. Bit I run a lot of castor on the front. I would assume you will gain more feedback and resistance of you had added castor also on the corsa column. |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 17:35
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #949
devere wrote: My 106 hydraulic pump is still providing resistance and feedback. Bit I run a lot of castor on the front. I would assume you will gain more feedback and resistance of you had added castor also on the corsa column. Once it's fitted Im willing to try that & other stuff if it's to light ..great Idea ...top man Martin |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 18:10
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #950
I'm sure I read somewhere that the knuckle works with a 306 one? Maybe it was a 205________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 18:55
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