Post #26
see If you can sus anything out of that photo?http://www.306gti6.com/forum/attachments/2240232_dsc_0007_(400x600).jpg
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 shabusta
Regular  Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 26th Oct 2015 at 23:37
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mocinim
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Post #27
The wires are wear sensor wires if they dont plug in anywhere cut them off nice and short mine are the same cut off that is!________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 26th Oct 2015 at 23:37
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mocinim
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Post #28
Oe top mounts with coilovers not sure thats correct what does the manufacturer suggest for top mountsbearings do look upside down from what i can see flange lip should point down in a normal cup fit flat of bearing to the top ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 26th Oct 2015 at 23:43
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mocinim
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Post #29
Oe one shows the bearing flange coming through the top spring cup black ring in the middle not sure how they will fit you coilovers ot sure they should ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 26th Oct 2015 at 23:47
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shabusta
Regular Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
Post #30
I've been thinking about it all day,I had a funny feeling about the drop links the whole time and that the struts drop link hole was in the wrong location, that it should be parallel with the body not off set by say 45 degrees. then it just clicked.... i think i put the drop links on back to front...... and to bring back an old joke, yes they are also upside down :/ |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 05:31
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shabusta
Regular Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Just so i 100% know, is this on the wrong way (drop link)Cant do the video tonight forgot i have a night shift as well, and i pulled the car apart to try and fix the tie rods so that killed most of the time i had. comparing to the old strut it would appear that i did have them on the right way?  |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:04
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shabusta
Regular Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
Post #32
After further inspection i believe that the strut mounts have played a part in this,the springs clearly have too much movement, the top part is missing which would explain why i couldn't do the torque rating on them, and as said earlier have i put them on upside down or the wrong way?   OEM suspension top mount.  |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #33
bearing is upside down.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:24
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mocinim
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Post #34
welshpug! wrote: bearing is upside down.[/quote As per the previous bearing is definately upside down the strut wont seat properly once fitted correctly it will give more thread at the top of the mount to tighten the bolt down dont drive this fella ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:49
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shabusta
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Post #35
To confirm if i flip the bearing will the springs sit in a U shaped grove to also fix that issue?And should i get the fittings off the old struts so the bolt holds down on the rubber on top? Drop links right or wrong way around? |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:56
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mocinim
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Post #36
Drop links look ok mine are pug ones and are equal size both ends not sure on rotation from the pic link strut connection fin should face the car as the hub sits stright e.g with no turn does your coilover have a locating notch on it this should locate your strut correctly on the hub should slot in the gap where the bolt clamps the hub ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 07:57
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mocinim
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Post #37
mocinim wrote: Drop links look ok mine are pug ones and are equal size both ends not sure on rotation from the pic link strut connection fin should face the car as the hub sits stright e.g with no turn does your coilover have a locating notch on it this should locate your strut correctly on the hub should slot in the gap where the bolt clamps the hub Fresh bearing !! The flange should face down you need this to slot into the top of your strut the weight must push on the curved section ! Outer flange ! mocinim has attached the following image: ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 08:54
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mocinim
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Post #38
mocinim wrote: mocinim wrote: Drop links look ok mine are pug ones and are equal size both ends not sure on rotation from the pic link strut connection fin should face the car as the hub sits stright e.g with no turn does your coilover have a locating notch on it this should locate your strut correctly on the hub should slot in the gap where the bolt clamps the hub Fresh bearing !! The flange should face down you need this to slot into the top of your strut the weight must push on the curved section ! Outer flange ! Do you have a pic of the top of the coilover is there a grove where this will fit mocinim has attached the following image: ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 08:57
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shabusta
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Post #39
If i am understanding correctly and it will fit exactly how you are holding it there is a bracket that the lip that points down will fit into if not that would be a perfect fit for the spring to simply fit around.I never understood the term flange can you explain how you understand it? And again should i get the metal top for the bolt to press down onto? |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 09:12
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mocinim
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Post #40
On you original set up the flange (bit on the bearing that points down )goes into the top of the spring cup bit of metal or disc that the top of your spring pushes on Im guessing that on the top of the coilover there is a groove the flange/down pointing bit will slot into if not you will require a different topmount type or adaptor SORRY SHOULD OF READ ABOVE ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:16
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mocinim
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Post #41
Flange: An external or internal rib or rim, used either to add strength or to hold something in placeflange. [flanj] /flændʒ/ a projecting rim, collar, or ring on a shaft, pipe, machine housing, etc., cast or formed to give additional strength, stiffness, or supporting area, or to provide a place for the attachment of other objects. 2. ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 09:29
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shabusta
Regular Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Yes there is an adapter that should fit perfectly (Hopefully....) i'll try and work out a method to do it without removing the top mount or the strut from the hud / body.current plan is to raise the body of the car, support the wishbone undo the bolt flip the bearing, align lower and do up bolt. thanks for that the closest i have come to a definition was that it was basically the same as a gasket. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 11:40
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mocinim
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Post #43
Spoke to demon tweeks guy said should fit as sold to you e.g should go stright onto oe mount  Flange :its a great word !!! ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 11:51
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RetroPug
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Post #44
shabusta wrote: Same as i took it off ish, 19 turns either side. It won't solve your knocking, and the bearing issue certainly needs fixing, setting the toe to roughly the same number of turns will get it good enough to go and get it done properly, but with all the changes etc. and the imprecision in doing the same approximate number of turns will mean it is still a fair bit out. I hope once you sort the top mount bearing issue out your troubles will be over. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:14
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shabusta
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Post #45
i think the knocking was the adapter moving on the rubber of the flange, everything else seems fine.and yes once i get on the road i need a wheel alignment ASAP. |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:24
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mocinim
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Post #46
Hi retro will it being out of alignment cause clicking or knocking in the tierod ends________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:31
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RetroPug
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Post #47
mocinim wrote: Hi retro will it being out of alignment cause clicking or knocking in the tierod ends It shouldn't do, but it being out of alignment is definitely bad and the car will have all sorts of funny road-holding behaviour, so if you suspect it is out get it realigned. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:46
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mocinim
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Post #48
I know mine is out waiting on drive shafts before i get it done have a clicking on mine when moving away and slowing as the torque comes in n drops off cant define where it is coming from had new bearings well and everything really about to replace inner tie rods will replace outer to keep as a set fingers crossed any thoughts ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 27th Oct 2015 at 12:51
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shabusta
Regular Location: Australia Registered: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 244 Status: Offline |
Post #49
okay top mount bearings flipped knocking is gone, but i do have 2 suspects if it comes back. i think the drop links are hitting the tail end of the hub clamp bolt that holds the strut. or the drop-links are hitting the wishbones, but it only looks close when raised probably different when on the ground.     |
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Posted 28th Oct 2015 at 09:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #50
struts are either 205 ones or they're on the wrong sides.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Oct 2015 at 09:55
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