Post #76
10k is average, wrc and GT spec car stuff is even more.________________________________________
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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 20:58
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #77
With out knowing what part was at fault I'm not jumping the gun and even thinking about it! The thing is mine/richs, Andy's and stans lasted pretty well at circa 440hp and 315 lb ft, when Ross's box went it was only at high boost figures I hope it isn't the straight cuts at fault! It could be down to oil starvation or oil to hot but it could all be down to the plate diff! I certainly won't be spending 10k on a gearbox that for sure! At this moment in time all my money is going towards the house and I have even thought about selling up..... But then I took it out for a drive  |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:12
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #78
10k to have a drive able ragable car yes I would consider it, I feel disheartened at the moment I'm 20k in and can't even drive my car. I wish to be fair I hadn't gone on the dyno and had just been happy with the car the way it was at 317bhp but it was running Rich and I thought I'd get the fueling sorted. Now I feel I'm back to square one. My gearbox will be investigated and my diff can be rebuilt, I'm not jumping the gun but I think that I need to have a proper solution to the problem! 10k tho a lot if it sorts the issue wouldn't bother me if I just need to maintain the car rather than replace a gearbox and diff every 1000 miles. You've got to remember this problem so far has cost 2k it only has to happen 4 more times and I'd have spent 10k. To be fair I'm not even sure it's worth sorting it but at the moment I've got a car I cannot even use. Anyone else in my position would also be considering there options I think?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:37
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #79
I wasn't referring to you jumping the gun bud, I would just rather not think about it until the time comes! I do see your logic behind spending 10k on a box, the only thing is I doubt you will get any warranty or guarantee on what ever you do as its a motorsport item and they never give warranty or a guarantee! Are you 100% sure that 3rd and 4th are damaged? |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:46
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #80
I thought when it came to mapping it was only done in one gear?? As it'd not a boost by gear or rpm set up I'm unsure why it has to be done in each gear? Again I know sod all about mapping and Wayne does! |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:49
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craig903
Regular  Location: whitstable Registered: 08 Jul 2013 Posts: 273 Status: Offline |
Post #81
has the casing broke? or is it stripped gears etc?________________________________________ 208 GTI OwnerTurbo'd '6 project - work in progress |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:56
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #82
Not to dishearten you even more Ross, but no dog engagement box (this includes sequentials) are fit and forget. If you screw up a shift you'll knock dogs off, a loose dog in a gear will strip a gear and every time you shift gear you get small fragments of metal introduced into the oil and so regular servicing is essential and often costly. I would seriously look into an ML box, or maybe a Volvo/Saab box or similar, I know its a bit of f**king about but once in, parts are plentiful and reasonably priced, I honestly don't think a sequential will do you any favours. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 22:15
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #83
To be fair I think I'm just going to get the quaife gearkit that pug1offs 205 ran until I can sort a six speed out, R32 gearbox converted to fwd seems to be good for over 500 lbft I will succeed and have a great fun car. Just at the moment I feel disappointed and p**sed off. Plus the aa fcked two r888s by strapping the car to tight to the lorry so that's another £200 I need to spend. ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 22:27
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #84
Standard gearbox and she works again. ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 14:15
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #85
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Standard gearbox and she works again. Happy Days & I'm really pleased for you Ross  |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 15:28
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Castor_Troy
Regular  Location: Forfar Registered: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 282 Status: Offline |
Post #86
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: To be fair I think I'm just going to get the quaife gearkit that pug1offs 205 ran until I can sort a six speed out, R32 gearbox converted to fwd seems to be good for over 500 lbft I will succeed and have a great fun car. Just at the moment I feel disappointed and p**sed off. Plus the aa fcked two r888s by strapping the car to tight to the lorry so that's another £200 I need to spend. Claim them back off the AA |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 17:26
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #87
I'm going to mate just meens I can't drive it till I get two new tyres  drove it home at 30mph all parked up going to get the gearbox tomorrow and wait till I speak to miles find out when I can send it down for him to check on it ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 17:49
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #88
Any updates on what may of happened to the box/ Diff on the rolling road Ross ? |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 07:09
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #89
I'm sure the latest ML boxes will take well over 500 lbft  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 08:21
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Built incorrect iirc. Welded 4th and 5th together. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 13:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #91
that's not possible, there's a bearing between 4th and 5th  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 13:41
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #92
I hope you get it all sorted and maybe come up with a durable, cost effective, hybrid gearbox that wil take the abuse mate @ fatlapit who or what is Yune from Portugal mate? |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 14:11
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #93
Ross did you not send your box to Miles in the end ????I can remember Miles saying something about the works boxes getting converted to needle roller bearings to stop them welding together ? |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2015 at 15:34
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #94
Evo box converted to fwd  I've seen a few xu bottom ends with all sorts of gearboxes at car shows over the years something must be doable with adaptor plate or similar? Have heard r32 boxes are fairly strong yes but also 4wd.... No one really makes a road going front wheel drive car with that much torque.... For a reason... ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2015 at 20:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #95
yep, seen an EVO box on an XU bottom end, was connected to a rear diff too.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2015 at 20:31
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #96
Kiddy works opposite my garage has a corsa he's spent far to much on running Turbo'd 1.8sri engine with custom manifolds etc making a safe 320bhp for now. Using a calibra 4x4 turbo gearbox converted to fwd only and had no problem so far after a number of track days________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 4th Sep 2015 at 23:17
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #97
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Standard gearbox and she works again. Ross ....where are YOU ????? Miles hasn't had your gearbox ????? Any updates / news ? |
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Posted 5th Sep 2015 at 09:41
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #98
Gearbox has been apart it seems the failure has arisen from bearing failure. The car is back together but I'm not going to go for mapping until I've fitted a gearbox oil cooler and fitted a few more shiny bits sorry membership had run out ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Sep 2015 at 12:19
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #99
How do you plumb in a gearbox oil cooler? Not sure where it would connect in to! ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 26th Sep 2015 at 14:30
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #100
Plumb in to the drain and fill ports I suppose is easiest.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 26th Sep 2015 at 14:43
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