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Author Subject: Wanted: Xsara VTS Ph1 Steering Rack
MisterGTR

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Post #1
Looking to buy a quicker rack for my 98 6er.

Xsara VTS Ph1 Rack i read is the quickest available so that's the one i would like. But if there are any others eg Quaife etc that i should be considering, please let me know!

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Posted 16th Nov 2014 at 22:25
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Post #2
just turn the damn wheel faster

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Posted 16th Nov 2014 at 22:51
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fatlapit wrote:
just turn the damn wheel faster


Feeling old, need all the help I can get. Smile

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Posted 16th Nov 2014 at 23:13
jamiek_uk2000

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What's the difference in lock between the p1 vts and GTi 6 rack. I've been on about getting one for a while. Just not got around to it

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Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 09:33
superchargedblack1997gti6

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I have a phase 1 rack fitted to my Rallye difference is night and day. Believe mine is 2.4 turns vs standard 3.4 turns lock to lock ! Feels very different phase 2 gets rack is shorter but phase 1 rack if you can find one. Smile

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Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 11:03
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #6
What reg does the phase 1 run up to on the vts

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Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 10:16
dangti6

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Ph1 VTS is 2.4 and the ph2 is 2.6

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  • Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 10:17
    jamiek_uk2000

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    Post #8
    The phase one fits straight on whereas a phase two the hoses don't fit straight on iirc

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 10:21
    dangti6

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    Yeah the connections are different.

    A registration number for a ph1 VTS for reference is: R270 CRL

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  • Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 10:44
    Mossy1985

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    Post #10
    I added a wanted ad a few weeks back with no luck mate
    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 11:31
    MisterGTR

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    Post #11
    dangti6 wrote:
    Yeah the connections are different.

    A registration number for a ph1 VTS for reference is: R270 CRL


    Thanks Dan.

    Very helpful

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 16:35
    MisterGTR

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    Mossy1985 wrote:
    I added a wanted ad a few weeks back with no luck mate


    Cheers for letting me know. I'll go hunting around the scrappy's

    Any idea what sort of price i should pay for one and anything to look out for?

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 16:37
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    On forums you'll see people asking anywhere up to £150 for a phase 1 rack!

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  • Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 16:39
    MisterGTR

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    dangti6 wrote:
    On forums you'll see people asking anywhere up to £150 for a phase 1 rack!


    Thanks Dan. I'll use that as my backstop.

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 16:40
    MisterGTR

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    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    The phase one fits straight on whereas a phase two the hoses don't fit straight on iirc


    Cheers Jamie - that's as good a reason as any to hold out for a PH1!

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 17:10
    welshpug!

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    not really, just use the PH2 pipework.

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 17:40
    MisterGTR

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    welshpug! wrote:
    not really, just use the PH2 pipework.


    Cool but i would have to buy with pipework....which seems to command a premium (from my limited searching i,e ebay!)

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 17:42
    mik

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    It is slightly simpler to use the P1 rack as it has the same fittings as a 306, but I ended up with a P2 rack and paid an extra £20 for the pipework, and it went on fine. Night and day difference, should have been on the car since new. So if you can't find a P1 rack, a P2 is still fine and does the job.

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    Posted 17th Nov 2014 at 19:46
    jord294

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    Post #19
    dangti6 wrote:
    On forums you'll see people asking anywhere up to £150 for a phase 1 rack!


    I'd be wanting more than that to sell mine. But it does have brand new 306 track rod arms and ends

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    Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 02:11
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    These racks are becoming rarer, since there weren't that many Xsara VTS sold in the UK and loads of them have been broken already. People are snapping them up for the 306, so they have been going for more than they should technically be worth.

    Something is worth what someone will pay for it!

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    Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 01:55
    jord294

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    I also have a brand new steering ram for gti6 somewhere

    As I won't be getting another 306 I may aswell sell what I don't need Thumbs up

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    Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 02:13
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    Really Andy? Are you playing that record again?

    You'll be back. They always come back...

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    Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 02:17
    dangti6

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    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    Really Andy? Are you playing that record again?

    You'll be back. They always come back...


    LOL

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  • Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 07:51
    jord294

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    jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
    Really Andy? Are you playing that record again?

    You'll be back. They always come back...


    LOL definitely won't be getting another 6. Especially when I've got a very good 205 gti on the driveway.

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    Posted 18th Nov 2014 at 10:51
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    MisterGTR wrote:
    Mossy1985 wrote:
    I added a wanted ad a few weeks back with no luck mate


    Cheers for letting me know. I'll go hunting around the scrappy's

    Any idea what sort of price i should pay for one and anything to look out for?


    If you happen to find two let me know. LOL

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