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 Ben_W
Formerly gpm  Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #301
Thanks Andy.Craig has been as brilliant as ever. Two original part number bolts have been sourced. ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
 Posted 30th Aug 2016 at 06:47
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mocinim
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Darkside of bedford :) Registered: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 2,307 Status: Offline |
Post #302
Ben_W wrote: Thanks Andy. Craig has been as brilliant as ever. Two original part number bolts have been sourced. I know had a chat with him about the same I wanted original part numbers for mine my pug dealer had somespare bolts in for me to compare from the facelift Exactly the same as my original subframe screws ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 30th Aug 2016 at 06:51
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #303
Right, so got a few more bits zinc plated today. Finally seem to have the hang of it now which is good news.....today's bits came out really well. Wife not over happy about them hanging up drying I'm the spare room but never mind....hard to get the lighting right as well so you can get a good idea of the colour. Crap Microsoft work phone isn't helping....    A few of the bits I've done so far...  Also mixed up a batch of the last of my Deox C and have a load more bits soaking in that. Did it in the Deox C bottle as it has a wide top. Chuck everything in, close the lid, handy for giving the whole lot the occasional shake! ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2016 at 17:32
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #304
A few more unobtainium bits turned up today.....Brand new subframe mounts cups and a proper Rallye part numbered bolt, none of this Berlingo rubbish!  This parts ocdness is gonna kill me! ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 12th Sep 2016 at 20:01
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #305
I tried to get those cups peugeot said no longer avalible?________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 12th Sep 2016 at 20:13
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #306
Thats because they aren't.......having a good parts man who knows where to look is invaluable. He found 6. Mocinim had the other 4. 2 were in Germany, one in Belgium, not sure where the other 3 came from but all from Europe. Bolt I think came from Poland....________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 12th Sep 2016 at 20:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #307
NFP not NLA  or usually CBFA  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Sep 2016 at 20:43
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #308
I was buying all this stuff in 2012 and it was all still available from my local dealer. Shows the difference a few short years make. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 12th Sep 2016 at 20:57
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #309
liking your workBen_W wrote: So these turned up in the post today...  Posted Tuesday in New Zealand. Delivered here today. Bloody impressive about to get a fabricator friend to make a set these who was your source?  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 15th Sep 2016 at 10:28
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mocinim
Seasoned Pro Location: The Darkside of bedford :) Registered: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 2,307 Status: Offline |
Post #310
Ill take a set if any come up  ________________________________________ BLACK RALLYE - phoenixWHITE RALLYE - valliant http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/ https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history |
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Posted 15th Sep 2016 at 10:45
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #311
russbez wrote: liking your work Ben_W wrote: So these turned up in the post today... Posted Tuesday in New Zealand. Delivered here today. Bloody impressive about to get a fabricator friend to make a set these who was your source? A guy called Brett, met him on one of the 306 Facebook pages. Was breaking a 306 in NZ...... ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 15th Sep 2016 at 22:19
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #312
Brand spanking new, still in the original Peugeot box, side skirt! The first of a few new panels! I didn't realise they came with all the clips, including the unobtanium one...  My latest eBay bargain.....a Rallye H/U, complete with code. Replacement for the one I have where I broke a tiny bit of the surround.   ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 22:50
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #313
Ben_W wrote: Brand spanking new, still in the original Peugeot box, side skirt! The first of a few new panels! I didn't realise they came with all the clips, including the unobtanium one... My latest eBay bargain.....a Rallye H/U, complete with code. Replacement for the one I have where I broke a tiny bit of the surround. That clip on the skirt in the photograph, is that the NLA one?? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 23:29
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #314
Yup. I managed to source 12 original ones. Sold all but 4 which I was keeping for myself.________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 7th Oct 2016 at 23:36
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #315
Ben_W wrote: Yup. I managed to source 12 original ones. Sold all but 4 which I was keeping for myself. I thought as much, I bought a bag of 10 I think it was at the stealers bout a month ago....... ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 9th Oct 2016 at 08:22
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ale624
Regular  Location: bristol Registered: 02 May 2016 Posts: 173 Status: Offline |
Post #316
Holy crap, just read through all of this. amazing work!makes me a bit worried for whats lurking beneath my Rallye! |
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Posted 10th Nov 2016 at 12:49
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #317
So, the insignia kinda sparked my interest in cars again after a rough 12-18 months. That led to me looking at the Rallye and thinking, I'd really like to drive that again….If I'm to do that, there's a lot of work to do yet. So, this afternoon, the red rallye restoration recommenced. First job was to get under it and see how its held up underneath. All of it got bare metalled, it all got zinc primered and some got done with the two part epoxy. The boot floor got stone chipped and painted. Considering it spent 9 months though autumn, winter and spring on a wet grass bank, and then another summer, autumn and winter on my drive, it's held up incredibly well. It's proven to me I've used the right stuff. There is a little surface rust towards the front bulkhead, but this is due to this section only getting zinc primered and the rust actually appears to be the zinc in the primer. A rub with a finger and it's gone. Good stuff. So, the pics (and this is exactly how I've found it after all this time, no cleaning etc)   Boot floor and tank area (this bit's been epoxy mastic’d)     Very, very pleased with that lot. So, got busy with a small wire brush in a drill at the front of the car to remove the surface rust. You can see how clean the metal is underneath.    Now, I'm not happy with this triangular strengthener. It's out of shape, probably from errant jacking and there is surface rust under the mounting flanges and God knows what else under the body of it   There's a tag that sits over the chassis rail which oddly isn't spot welded. I pulled this back.   I'm currently investigating if these little strengthener sections are available. They appear to be fixed with a total of 5 spot welds. My plan is to drill out the spot welds and replace if i can find new parts or clean up, straighten and then replace if they are not. I need to buy a new grinder tomorrow. My mate needed his 110v back so gave me another but it's not an M14 spindle, which all my wire brush attachments are. Weather forecast is good for tomorrow so plan is gym, nip to argos for a grinder, then subframe off and finish bare metalling the front end/base of the bulkhead. I'm also looking to get a rotisserie so i can spin it over and work at it in a far more ergonomically comfortable position. My shoulder still isn't right and thoughts are at the mo I've done the rotator cuff (too many years of throwing shot putts, discuses and hammers….) plus it's far safer having a grinder with a wire brush doing 10k rpm at arms length, rather than inches directly above your face…. ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 1st Apr 2017 at 21:31
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alcon
Senior User  Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 936 Status: Offline |
Post #318
Are you painting the underside red (body colour)?________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 00:10
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #319
Yes________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 07:12
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #320
Just get some mattresses and some mates and roll it in its side |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 12:04
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RallyeRed
Regular  Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #321
In automotive history these cars will go down as the king of 'strengthener sections' that look like jacking points but are actually made of cheese and will rust to crap...Let me know if you find any similar panels or repro sections as I'm in need. Either than or some F*ck off box section going in there! |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 13:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #322
looks like the remains of a spot weld on that tab you lifted up, hasn't penetrated fully.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 13:58
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #323
You might be right Mei, or its rusted away....!My parts man and i think we have identified the part number for these. He's on with trying to find one and get a picture. Will keep you posted. ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 14:12
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #324
Today was about three things.Cider hangover…….good time seeing our best friends yesterday night for dinner and carried on when we got home! Grinder shopping Stripping! So, have got to Argos at 10:45, not realising it didn't open until 11 and being shocked at just how many people were there waiting, grinder was purchased and i was on the way home. First things first, brew. Tis the law on a Sunday morning when you might not be feeling your best! Brew done and outside to get busy. First job was take the subframe, hubs and struts off, again! The bits i zinc plated myself have held up very well indeed, I'm very happy.  [seeIMG]http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd238/ben_wells77/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-04/IMG_20170402_124330_zps1tsvkdab.jpg[/IMG] This is as far as i got before…..  Anyway, i got busy firstly on the passenger side arch. The one big issue with the Rallyes seems to be the hidden rust. There's that much seam sealant/stone chip under there which looks fine on top, but underneath it's a different story. This is by the welded in bracket that hold the brake flexible pipes. I took this pic as i stopped with the grinder as it was a good opportunity to show what's going on. Remaining seam sealant/stone chip looks fine but you can already see the rust underneath  A bit more wire brush and this….  Worrying in that there don't appear to be any bits where the water could have got in. All the more reason to bare metal. A smaller wire brush in the drill gets it to this.  I'm very tempted to have the place i will take it to to be blasted/2k primed drill the spot welds and remove the brackets, clean up underneath and then reweld them in place. This OCD is getting out of control. Moving on a bit, still in the same arch, i came across this not far away. Spotted this in an instant (I'm such a geek…)  Didn't get an after pic but looks like a stone chip (hole in the middle) has let water in and it's got underneath. Didn't get an after pic but there was surface rust the size of the blow on the sealant. Got bored with the arch and lying in the floor so parked my ample arse on the front cross member and started on the engine bay. Ended up looking like this..  But not before I'd found this on the passenger side bulkhead  Or this under and to the right hand side of the servo..   In for a penny, out came the screwdriver. Bugger.   Clearly water ingress although you can see from the angles of things here that water will collect and just sit. Poor design Pug, poor design. Then got busy cleaning up the floor sections i couldn't do before when the subframe was on. No real issues here, just more of that black crap   Need to find a way to pop these back out…..eejits with trolley jacks..  Got to 6pm and i called it quits. Ears ringing as i forgot how loud the wire brushing could be, must buy some ear plugs. Still, I'd had most of what was a very nice day, outside, doing what i love! ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 21:09
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #325
You're doing well there mate. Agree that much grinding is not kind to the ears (or the neighbours)!Your observation on the spot welds was exactly the same as mine on my Impreza build, which started off as a inner wheel arch refresh, and ended up becoming a huge 'do'. You do become an expert in spotting which spot weld are holding rust. I think it's safe to say at this age, pretty much all of them  Once I got stuck in to the Impreza I felt a huge sense of relief that I was doing it, because evidently even the most (outwardly) tidy looking car will be holding this secret, so I was glad to be past it. It'll be worth the hard work now, when you get to feel smug later knowing nearly all of us will need to be doing the same at some point.. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2017 at 22:18
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