Post #76
Which in my experience is more reliable than pretty much anything over 10 years old. 
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 pebbles167
Seasoned Pro  Location: Melksham. Wiltshire. Registered: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 2,516 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 20th Oct 2013 at 23:38
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6waysforward
Seasoned Pro  Location: Benfleet essex Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,168 Status: Offline |
Post #77
I only drive my low boost at weekends but would not have a problem with driving it everyday.Sometimes wish i could tbh. I do have stalling issue's but i know my icv is playing up to. Whats the best place to buy them by the way?? Don't mind shelling out at pug but is there anywhere else? You do get bored with low boost though  ________________________________________ ***Breaking*** Ph3 Silver GTI 6 High Boost |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 00:33
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doof
Regular  Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #78
Mine has been fantastically reliable for the last year (10k miles) but sadly the 'charger is starting to whine and needs repairing so obviously this is going to be a huge bill. I spoke to Lynx and out of 60 supercharged 306's only 1 has been back with a whining 'charger so I guess mine makes it 2 now. It's disappointing but as a percentage it's still very low. I don't mind the stalling too much. My only issue is that it means the Mrs can never drive so I can't drink if we go somewhere. You just adapt your driving style and now I never really dip the clutch in traffic above 1500 rpm. It's annoying at times but for the most part you don't notice. I just had an Evo 6 CAT welded into my exhaust and I'm hoping it lasts well. I'll report back to people on here after the MOT. One other thing i noticed when i was getting used to the power; make sure the mats aren't getting under the throttle, it made a massive difference when I moved it and went from 80% throttle to 100%  |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 09:54
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Roon
Junior User Location: Chichester Registered: 06 Jan 2013 Posts: 91 Status: Offline |
Post #79
Well mines 27 years old lol so it's alright ish, as for being bored in sih a raw light car it should be more than enough. High boost would probably rip it in half lol |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 13:27
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #80
doof wrote: Mine has been fantastically reliable for the last year (10k miles) but sadly the 'charger is starting to whine and needs repairing so obviously this is going to be a huge bill. I spoke to Lynx and out of 60 supercharged 306's only 1 has been back with a whining 'charger so I guess mine makes it 2 now. It's disappointing but as a percentage it's still very low. I don't mind the stalling too much. My only issue is that it means the Mrs can never drive so I can't drink if we go somewhere. You just adapt your driving style and now I never really dip the clutch in traffic above 1500 rpm. It's annoying at times but for the most part you don't notice. I just had an Evo 6 CAT welded into my exhaust and I'm hoping it lasts well. I'll report back to people on here after the MOT. One other thing i noticed when i was getting used to the power; make sure the mats aren't getting under the throttle, it made a massive difference when I moved it and went from 80% throttle to 100% wind the tb / idle screw up so it's at 1500 rpm on closed throttle ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 13:34
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #81
You can do that, but that's not how it was designed to work.I had no stalling issues when I was low boost, however I was running the smaller intercooler and smaller diameter pipe work which probably made a difference. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 14:13
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #82
i was actually joking and merely expressing my pikeyness, i'd in reality only do that to temporarily stop the problem________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st Oct 2013 at 14:26
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #83
There's a thread up saying where to buy a cheap ICV from its through ECP but through a different name. Sine replacing mine I have no stalling issues and mine hasn't broken down once since it's been charged. Only gets used as a toy but gets driven hard 90% of the time. Would be fine to drive every day if I could afford it and it wasn't stripped. May have to use it as a daily for a while if I don't find a replacement derv soon. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 00:48
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #84
I now drive a high boost 6 everyday now with no issues, fuel consumption is a tad different to a standard 6 though! but loving the noise sounds like a jet with the exhaust it has on it! If you can drive sensibly though mpg isn't far off a standard car though drop the hammer and you see the fuel needle go down.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 07:38
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m306
Seasoned Pro  Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #85
Does high boost run a different inlet setup to low boost though? Or is it just super high boost thats different?________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 10:08
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #86
^^ It was a thread imported up, check my thread history for details on how to get a cheap genuine ICV! Didn't solve my stalling though! ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 10:09
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #87
New icv didnt solve mine either________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 10:11
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #88
same inlet as low boost my superhighboost is different inlet with throttle on the end of inlet manifold rather than on charger inlet.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 10:13
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #89
stan_306gti6 wrote: however I was running the smaller intercooler and smaller diameter pipe work which probably made a difference.  this is exactly why yours didn't stall, the bigger your pipe work and cooler is, the bigger it effectively makes your inlet! All that air to use up, pipes to suck in etc and a lightened flywheel will only make matters worse. I'm sure live mapping the car would eliminate any stalling probs rather than using the generic map.________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 10:31
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Agree with Allen, the plenum is now huge as instead of just the manifold to control, the ICV has to control idle air flow in the charger, pipe work, intercooler and the manifold and it wasn't designed for this.Simple answer is to either use the smaller setup or change your driving style to accommodate. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 11:42
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #91
Why not just put the throttle body in its standard position on the end of the inlet manifold? Then it only has to control the same amount of air as on the standard car. I know this would mean having to have a dump valve but i think thats a small price to pay for a more reliable setup. And it would mean the warranty would be approved on the charger. ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 15:53
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #92
because the ecu can't see positive boost as such that would mean standalone ecu like the dta on superhighboost cars?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 16:11
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #93
I had stalling issues the whole time I owned mine but again had the bigger pipe work and intercooler. I believe a custom map cures the problem. Something that should always be done to them IMO. Just a shame chip wizards was so far away. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 17:37
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #94
Ok so it would add more components and more cost than i thought but if it was an option i wouldve taken it because i would want the best posible setup. ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 17:48
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #95
to be fair it prob wouldn't add to much cost to the conversion other than an original base map to be mapped and the cost of a dta ecu and wiring loom________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 17:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #96
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: to be fair it prob wouldn't add to much cost to the conversion other than an original base map to be mapped and the cost of a dta ecu and wiring loom DTA ECU and loom cost me £1000, plus £400 to get it mapped. I'd say that was a fair bit more for the conversion.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 19:02
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #97
I agree stan but when spending. 7-8k on a conversion £1400 doesn't sound a lot especially as that includes a full mapping session as well. Not sure if you'd need a recirculating dump valve as well. ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 19:06
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #98
Yes, you would still need a dump valve in this case. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 20:10
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #99
got to love a dump valve sounds awesome and totally unexpected from our cars.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 20:29
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #100
Ok so that would mean you can get the current stalling low boost setup for £4000, or the setup id like that will run fine and keep the rotrex warranty for £5500. Thats still cheaper than going for the £8000 high boost option. And one of the key reasons id of gone high boost wouldve been to try to get better reliability. I suppose for track/fun use the current setup is fine but as a daily id pay more for the other, that way i could trust other people to drive it too. ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 26th Oct 2013 at 22:06
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