It's still a lot of money considering you can pick these cars up for like £800 now.

________________________________________

"Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"
Peugeot 306 GTi-6
2000 (X), Moonstone

Yeah but people are willing to spend it still, including you Stan, how much have you spent on yours over the years? I know you can get newer or better for that kind of money but theres a reason we dont... Because we love the gti6

________________________________________

supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold
2010 megane rs250

But on the other hand a huge percentage of people will say why have you spend 10k on a 1k car, your an idiot.... But they are quite happy to buy a brand new car for 15k and then sell it in 3 years for 4k.

In affect that's pretty much the same thing and I know what I'd rather have.

________________________________________

230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here
309 3dr K20 Type R

Yeah, basically this is what I'm saying.

I spent the money I did a good few years ago now - when the cars were still fairly valuable. Would I do it all again now? Definitely not, as the base price has gone down so much.

________________________________________

"Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"
Peugeot 306 GTi-6
2000 (X), Moonstone

I see what your saying here but I would never do that either .. The most ive spent on a car was £4700 for a e46 325 m tec sport coupe this was 4-5 years ago I swopped that for a ep3 type r and so on .. Currently got a 2003 seat leon cupra r which I would sell for 3.5k so over last few years I haven't lost any big money !! Me personaly a 5k is always going to be my budget

________________________________________

"Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off."

I'm sure Stan totaled it up over the years and it was something crazy, 60K rings a bell?

________________________________________

Indeed - over £60k in the 9 years I've owned it.

________________________________________

"Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"
Peugeot 306 GTi-6
2000 (X), Moonstone

Does anyone else think 3-4 year old cars are really any more reliable than 15 year old ones?

Buy a good 6 and it should be fine. Most of the guys I know with flashy new cars have spent tons more simply maintaining there cars. Tires alone for example are massivly less on a 6. I cant really fault the older cars unless you buy a dog. I couldnt justify the depreciation plus maintenance of a newer car. Plus, are they really more reliable? At pugfest tyere were2205's and such getting there arses torn out all day up prescott hill without a hitch. However, a new RCZ went up for what looked like a sunday cruise and its gearbox went bang... that one breakdown alone would cost more than my entire car.
No hassle or money saved there...

________________________________________

See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl.

Nope not at all. Ive got a 9 month old Kia ceed and its been in the garage more times than all 3 of my peugeots added together.

Agree with this. Saying something like "It is only worth £1000, so it's not worth spending £500 on replacing bits" is something people say without actually looking at the reasons, as if the net worth of the car is actually a serious consideration. As others have said, we are not buying cars to make money on. The real consideration is does it serve the purpose the owner wants it for. If the answer is yes then whether it is worth £1000 or £10000 is irrelevant.

If it is a rotted out basket case with holes everywhere then it is definitely not worth spending money on a new engine for example. But a clean 6 or Rallye that only needs some maintenance items like a radiator and clutch and will give another decade or more as a fun second car, then it is still incredibly cheap for the fun it delivers. To put it in context people spend £50K - £200K on 40-year old Porches so with a 306 we are talking about very cheap fun. All cars cost money to run new or old. And all the electronic trickery on newer cars is very expensive to fix if it goes wrong.

An interesting development in the new car market is that new sports cars are not selling well. But the market in older sports cars is booming. Seems people with £70K to spend on a new sports car are choosing to put it into an old one instead.

________________________________________

Cherry Rallye SOLD

Honestly though, from driving new cars they are often not reliable engine wise. Especially a lot of common rail diesels. Forever going wrong!

________________________________________

2005 Peugeot 206 GTI 180

2008 BMW K1200R

Yup particularly small common rail Diesel engines as the pistons in the pumps are often to small so they fail and chew themselves to bits prematurely and take the injectors with them.

Can't go wrong with a 2.0hdi or a VW 1.9 pd lump.

It's always a gamble with cars to be honest. I worked for a main dealer for 7 years and have seen many brand new cars blowing engines, heads, gearboxes, just out if warranty or within warrenty. Yet other identicke ones seem to do 200k miles without fault. Others seem to be destined to be a complete dog and are constantly full of problems.


Personally particularly after recent events a car is something that can be taken away in an instant. I could never justify the cost or depreciation of buying a brand new one. If I wanted reliability and no or set maintainable costs then if get a lease car. Pay a set amount and never worry about the car.

________________________________________

Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED
Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p
12x 306's owned so far

Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist.
Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available.