is it better to make as OEM with the centre section reducer or just keep the bore the same throughout?
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #1
well, I went for a measure up for a long life exhaust system. he offered a good price and can tailor the deafening qualities to my liking.is it better to make as OEM with the centre section reducer or just keep the bore the same throughout? ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 09:53
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Should be £299 or less for a cat back system? |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 17:51
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Long life quoted me 375________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 17:54
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #4
They are a franchise I think, like powerflow, so can charge whatever they want as I understand it ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 18:16
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Thats how i understand it too.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 18:26
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Ive used 2 shops before a number of times both have been £280 and I've had the down pipe with decat |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 18:36
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lewisdmz
Senior User Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
Post #7
If you don't mind waiting a few weeks I might have a cat-back long life system for sale? 3" inward rolled tip "mild sport" noise specification. Been on the car just over a year or ~10k.No joins though so would be a b**ch to post. |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 18:52
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #8
£250+ vat at my mates powerflow garage for a cat back.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 19:47
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Got a quote for a power flow system from 2 different locations one wanted £300 fitted just for a sports cat!!! the other wanted just over £300 for a complete system including a sports cat. ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 21:55
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Powerflow is not proper stainless steel! Ive seen several of their exhausts rust big time. Thats why i went for a long life. More expensive but is real stainless. |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 22:19
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Ive always had powerflow systems and never had one rust!?Not real SS lol ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 22:25
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #12
so i was told anyway and ive seen them rust before. Not unless the ones i saw came from a dealers where they were buying in their own pipe to save money |
Posted 29th Apr 2013 at 22:36
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #13
There covered under a lifetime guarantee so cutting corners would only cost the company more in time with replacing the system. Not to mention the legality of advertising and selling a product other then advertised and not of the quality it is sold as! ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 00:09
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Longlife uses 304 stainless steel which will tarnish when subjected to salt. I think its the same for powerflow.Magnex however use 316 which has a much better corrosion resistance. Hence why mine has covered 40k miles and still looks like new. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 13:13
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Jetex are stainless and they rust well looking at pics on here ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 18:59
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #16
aaron6 wrote: Longlife uses 304 stainless steel which will tarnish when subjected to salt. I think its the same for powerflow. Magnex however use 316 which has a much better corrosion resistance. Hence why mine has covered 40k miles and still looks like new. Nothing wrong with 304. You won't get any corrosion or rust ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 19:05
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #17
As for the exhaust, the system will be pretty much OEM with the oval exit as close to standard as possible and can be made as quiet as I want. ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 19:08
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #18
daver6 wrote: I didnt say rust. I said tarnishing. You do get this with 304, at work we use 316 in aapplications where salt is used as its quite simply much more resistant.. Plus ive had both powerflow and longlife pipes. My powerflow was 304 upto the 316 back box and it tarnished upto that point. Then my longlife which was all 304 tarnished from front to back. My magnex however is clean right through. You cant kind of keep on top of it with metal polishes but eventually I assure you it will lose its shine. aaron6 wrote: Longlife uses 304 stainless steel which will tarnish when subjected to salt. I think its the same for powerflow. Magnex however use 316 which has a much better corrosion resistance. Hence why mine has covered 40k miles and still looks like new. Nothing wrong with 304. You won't get any corrosion or rust ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 19:47
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Ah well, my car is lucky enough to receive a jet wash every two weeks, so I'm not too worried, but I see your point. I wanted to wait until I could get AAS to do it, but the soonest they could even look at it would be the end of June and my current exhaust is literally hanging off the car, so I do need it ASAP. Perhaps if I'd looked into it a bit further I'd have chosen otherwise? ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 21:07
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lewisdmz
Senior User Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
Post #20
daver6 wrote: As for the exhaust, the system will be pretty much OEM with the oval exit as close to standard as possible and can be made as quiet as I want. Think how quiet you want it, then ask them for it to be 5 times quieter than that and you should end up close (going from personal experience and what I read on the tinterwebs about Longlife). |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 21:32
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #21
He seemed quite confident that he could make it quiet, I want the quiet at cruising and only noisy if I'm revving hard :p I do hope that is achieved________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 30th Apr 2013 at 23:55
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Longlife will modify it for some time after but yeah, they have a tendency to start off too loud. My one was nicely made though. I believe it was the mid sport with a slightly larger centre box.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 1st May 2013 at 05:57
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #23
aaron6 wrote: Longlife will modify it for some time after but yeah, they have a tendency to start off too loud. My one was nicely made though. I believe it was the mid sport with a slightly larger centre box. Yep true. I asked for slightly louder than standard and it was silly loud. Proper chav spec but I went back and told him and he was good about it. Put another box in for free. Workmanship is great and the sound is lovely albeit slightly too loud for my liking still. |
Posted 1st May 2013 at 09:56
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Niall wrote: aaron6 wrote: Longlife will modify it for some time after but yeah, they have a tendency to start off too loud. My one was nicely made though. I believe it was the mid sport with a slightly larger centre box. Yep true. I asked for slightly louder than standard and it was silly loud. Proper chav spec but I went back and told him and he was good about it. Put another box in for free. Workmanship is great and the sound is lovely albeit slightly too loud for my liking still. Just what I want to hear He said he could modify the boxes to quieten it down if it was still too loud ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 1st May 2013 at 12:57
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Well, I'm now sat waiting for my exhaust to be made and fitted. Unfortunately, the internally baffled backbox which was going to keep things pretty quiet doesn't fit the car due to the axle being in the way.So I've had to go with one that'll be louder but will fit, so I suspect I'll be trying it this weekend and back to get it sorted... Or it'll be fine and not boomy at motorway speeds ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 3rd May 2013 at 14:33
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