We never forgot how to make things btw. Its just the world became more competitive.

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True, but other countries making things cheaper didn't put British companies out of business. British people buying Chinese products did.

If people really cared that much, they'd have insisted on buying British stuff, and we'd still have a big manufacturing industry. But people didn't, we all flocked to buy cheaper foreign goods. It's our own fault.

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Again, all true. But the fact that our country's pretty minted compared with most others surely goes to prove that we're not just a bunch of farmers and ironmongers anymore? Times change, let the other countries do manufacturing properly, we'll make stacks of cash with technology and services.

This thread peaked for me when we found out Stan was a borderline Nazi, I'll admit my heart's not really in it anymore.

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You don't make electronic road signs do you?

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Well do make sure they're accurate, or Stan's Banhammer'll be coming your way

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Hardly.

Yet another "Owain Over-Exaggeration Moment".

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Ok, so using that reasoning then (which is pretty fair), why would I have to pay a fine for having a technically illegal number plate (which was still perfectly legible to people and cameras) and yet when the Government get something *technically* wrong (yet still legible) they don't have to?

I think they *should* pay a "fine" as such and that payment would be paying back all the victims of said cameras for all the offences recorded since the cameras were put into operation (2006 I believe) *illegally* as they didn't comply with the rules, just the same as my dodgy number plate for example.

I couldn't turn around to a Police Officer and say, "yeah, I know it's *technically* not correct mate, but you know, it's good enough for you to read and I'm not going to spend any of my money to rectify it with a new one, so I'll be on my way now thanks". That being the case, why should the Government get away with saying EXACTLY this?



I have the "pent-up rage" due to life experience and being fed up of having to abide by rules to the letter to avoid quite frankly ridiculous fines, and yet the Government can swan about doing what they like, when they like and if they're ever 'caught out' (like now) they can always come up with an excuse and have their mistake brushed under the carpet.
It's sounds petty I know, but if I HAVE to abide by the rules, so should everyone else INCLUDING those who make them. In my book, it's either that or we might as well just have a free-for-all.

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But number plates are only illegal if you go out the way to put them on. It costs a person no extra to have them legal. So you're not exactly out of pocket are you? Cars come with the correct standard anyway so what's the issue?

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What about if you bought a vehicle privately which didn't have a plate on it which complied with British Standard?

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People are ignorant, it's the job of government to educate the people about the realities of buying cheap imported rubbish. If they put a hefty import tax on the s**te that is pouring into the country by the container load then I don't think people would buy it. Given the choice if prices were similar people would buy the quality product.

It's getting harder and harder to stop this downward trend, left unchecked British manufacture cannot compete with countries with labour rates a tenth of ours, so we shouldn't have to. It just needs the government to grow some balls and stand up for this country. We were worl leaders in shipbuilding, aerospace, weapon systems, rail and manufacturing. We have the skill-set to stand on our own two feet but we need the government to stop pulling the rug out from under us.

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+1 for Jim, very wise words.

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Simple case of 'Do as i Say' not 'Do as i do'

When i served in the army, the officers didn't really abide by the rules, however enforcing the lower majority i.e. The private soldiers, meant that things ran smoothly and the majority knew the implications on the whole 'job' if the rules weren't adhered to.
The same applies out in the wider world, yeah you will get the odd bunch that are p**sed off if the 'enforcers' are bending the rules, but if you think about it we are providing a good example to others by 'sticking to the regulations'.

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