Post #176
Cages s**t,new wheels are s**tWell done on f**king up big style
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 roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Well done on f**king up big style |
 Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 18:49
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tomlum
Regular  Location: Lincoln Registered: 17 May 2011 Posts: 210 Status: Offline |
Post #177
Takedown wrote: Some dayshots,  Cars looking awesome in the day light! and dont listen to 'roland rat' or 'welshpug!' they sound like jealous kids haha. Have you got any pictures of the flared rear arches? Keep up the good work mate |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 19:00
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #178
Black intercooler.........sheepish look ftw________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 19:29
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Takedown
Senior User  Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #179
roland rat wrote: Cages s**t,new wheels are s**t Well done on f**king up big style Woehahahahahha WOehahhahahahahaha learn to read dickhead  Ill make some pics of the flared arches, it was done by the previous owner and was done the right way, but im not to happy with it, since ill be needing some nice fat spacers on the rear to fit the Challengers. Car is dirty as fcuk.... Intercooler will stay silver, piping will be coated black in the front.... but thats for later Thursday well make a mockup of the screamerpipe and that will be a nice adventure  ... very little space |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 19:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #180
tomlum wrote: Cars looking awesome in the day light! and dont listen to 'roland rat' or 'welshpug!' they sound like jealous kids haha. Have you got any pictures of the flared rear arches? Keep up the good work mate jealous? f**k off, constructive criticism, that cage is dangerous ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 20:00
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro  Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
Post #181
But surely better than having no cage at all?????________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 21:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #182
Debatable!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 21:09
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dcc
Senior User  Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #183
Looks perfectly fine tbh.In the event of your death from injury caused through accident, please can you leave the car to me in your will? (I am sure you wont die though as that cage looks fantastic. really well thought out. wouldn't at all make me want to catch the bus instead. the bus actually looks better if you decide to put the wheels on. the bus also has a bigger engine. and more power. also much less likely to kill me.) ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 22:06
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #184
I wouldn't fancy being strapped in with harnesses in a serious crash when those doglegs could buckle ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 22:13
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #185
Thx DCC@ Welshpug ,youre done with the ZX? no? beat it  Uhmm that it doesnt comply with your MSA regulation or whatever i dont mind my Wiechers cage in the ///M3 was like this, Cusco cages are like this,Autopower ,Kirk etc etc I agree the frontlegs would be a bit stronger when they dont curve in front of the dash, but i dont see the problem, the angle isnt even that. Youre dead anyways when you crash hard in a pos frenchmeatball like the 306.... tip: just dont crash |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 00:41
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #186
Paul, what looks like a very promising project is fast being ruined by that cage & your attitude towards members who are trying to tell you it's dangerous.If you post things here & can't take criticism then perhaps you're on the wrong forum   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 00:58
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
Post #187
I don't see how it is dangerous, it is better than nothing being there and a lot better than a "show" cage, I don't think the cage is ruining the car just my opinion. Yes it can be made stronger better etc but if he is not in a competition racing series and it is a road car with the occasional track day why the hell not. All my opinion of course. ________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 01:06
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Puggered
Junior User  Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #188
binkagti wrote: I don't see how it is dangerous, it is better than nothing being there and a lot better than a "show" cage, I don't think the cage is ruining the car just my opinion. Yes it can be made stronger better etc but if he is not in a competition racing series and it is a road car with the occasional track day why the hell not. All my opinion of course. Actually it is dangerous, the axial loading capacity is substantially less on the dog leg and as it has minimal lateral support it's likely to crush your legs first and then impale you. mind you, you probably won't feel a thing as the carbon cards will have shattered and sliced all your nerves other than that car looks great |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 07:27
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #189
midlife wrote: Paul, what looks like a very promising project is fast being ruined by that cage & your attitude towards members who are trying to tell you it's dangerous. If you post things here & can't take criticism then perhaps you're on the wrong forum This. Your project is very impressive and members have given you many compliments on it, but there's no need to be confrontational when members try to point out areas that could be improved or are dangerous. Read through other threads and you'll see that they are the same. Ash is like that with everyone, so your summary of him is quite accurate. ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 08:15
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #190
clen666 wrote: midlife wrote: Paul, what looks like a very promising project is fast being ruined by that cage & your attitude towards members who are trying to tell you it's dangerous. If you post things here & can't take criticism then perhaps you're on the wrong forum This. Your project is very impressive and members have given you many compliments on it, but there's no need to be confrontational when members try to point out areas that could be improved or are dangerous. Read through other threads and you'll see that they are the same. Ash is like that with everyone, so your summary of him is quite accurate. Guys everyone is entitled to their opinions i agree, tastes differ... what you like i dont have to like...vice versa But if your thinking that , CAR LOOKS s**t,CAGE LOOKS s**t is positive critisism to tell me something isnt right, p**s about then! The w**ker is driving a 50 quid ZX and i gotta take that serious? I understand your point and your starting a discussion in a normal way and hey thats what the forum is there for i think, have discussions etc about parts/cars. So now everyone whos driving around with CF doorcards needs to remove them, since they will slice you in half when you get in an accident, lets talk about wooden steeringwheels then?, let talk about people adding 400kg of polyesther into the boot and fill er up with another 200kg of speakers and subs and keep the stock brakes. What about the people who use cf/polyesther bonnets and use the cheap bonnetpins, and who loose their bonnet on the motorway. Thatll be fun when your driving behind that. What about people who are strapped into the car with nice 4 points and use stock/race seats without a a cage, ever wondered what will happen to them if the flip the car? THAT IS DANGEROUS What about 90% of the people with a cage in their cage dont even have propper padding, THAT IS DANGEROUS! Ever seen what a flywheel can do to a driver when it comes trough the floor of a car? People who have 400+ BHP in a 306 , THAT IS DANGEROUS I understand that the frontlegs will be stronger in another design, i fully agree, but when Wiechers is still selling them like this,Cusco ( made by 21st Japan and they make cages for the JTCC) i dont think it will that mega life threatening to begin with. If i ever crash and live to tell i will certainly post up here To make a long story short, i like sharing the project on the forum, and YES i can take critisism no problem, and thank god tastes differ, or all of your wives would be sleeping with me. If you got something to say , something negative , no problemo, but just dont give me the bulls**t comments like s**t car etc and if i wanted a real racecar and compete in events i wouldnt have bought a pos frenchmeatball anyways. Cheers |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 09:32
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #191
 ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 09:49
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #192
Chris you hooligan |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 10:17
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #193
I see the love is strong on the forum as usual!!!________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 10:32
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #194
 it's all good!________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 10:49
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 10:54
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #196
Tbfh, Wiecher and Cusco make s**t cages, so don't use them as justification, they generally make overpriced stickered up tat for style/scene whores.By the way, it's not just 'our' MSA, they're not allowed by the FIA either without undergoing certification. Whilst in most cases of an accident that cage will be better than not having one, it does increase the chances of the a pillars intruding into the leg space in a bad one. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 11:30
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #197
Fair enough.. but 9/10 cages used here in people 6s dont comply to FIA , MSA or whatsoever |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 11:59
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #198
I get that the cage isn't the greatest. but how can it be worse than nothing at all, surely that isnt the case?You would be better of with than without when upside down for sure. Tbh if you flip a road car youve basically just ran out of talent BIG TIME and are trying too hard imo. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 12:28
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #199
Takedown wrote: Chris you hooligan Haha, sorry mate, just been a while since Ive seen the old popcorn smiley. No offense meant, I think your car is great and agree that your cage is better than no cage. I also agree that if it was made up from scratch, why not just use straight A pillar legs. I have that on my rollcage and it doesnt exactly get in the way. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 12:50
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Takedown
Senior User Location: Holland Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 845 Status: Offline |
Post #200
Hahah no problem at all mate.Had a quick fit of a Gutmann Cup edition rim, IMHO theyve got potential! As theyre made specific for the 306 the fitment is perfect!!! 7x17 with a ET 12 And not forget to mention theyre light! 8.6 kilo a piece , vs 7.9 kilo for the 1.2s They look A LOT LIKE Porsche wheels THe centrepart looks strange due the flash....   Perfect fitment!    Ill be keeping these and see what i can come up colorwise etc. When the freshly painted Challengers get back ill decide what wheels ill be sporting, the 1.2s or the Challengers, maybe ill fit full slicks to Gutmanns just for the heck of it |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 13:05
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