Post #51
It certainly sounds like it Dave, looks like the ol' girl will be getting ripped apart and a new HG fitted.
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 stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
It certainly sounds like it Dave, looks like the ol' girl will be getting ripped apart and a new HG fitted. Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
 Posted 19th Nov 2012 at 07:23
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #52
Yeah cheers StanDo you know what the recommended cambelt kit is please? Something about teeth? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 19th Nov 2012 at 07:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Youre looking at 5-600, best belt is 136 from gsf, £60 for a decent branded item, if its 137 now you will need the stud the tensioner sits on________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Nov 2012 at 09:40
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #54
Dayco is the original belt manufacturer, and INA for the tensioners. However, you can pick up INA tensioners at most factors or SKF ones both are a good make.For the belt either go for the Dayco, Gates or Continental.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Nov 2012 at 10:30
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #55
So quotes came in, £600 + vat from a local garage, think Carl said something cheaper but still £500 + vatThen a mate of a mate can do it as a sideline earner for £400 (but no receipt or comeback presumably) Not sure how to proceed, it's the wrong month of the year for this to have happened really and I'm considering chucking the car. What's a realistic price if sold for spares and repairs? Dave ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 22:57
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #56
£300-£400 really if it needs a HG and heater matrix. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 07:14
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #57
£300 and id take it to carl to be honest if hes cheaper. You could of course buy an engine from here £250-£300 fit it yourself________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 24th Nov 2012 at 09:34
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #58
Right well the HG has been repaired, including a skim and I've had the car back.However the car (in my non-mechanic opinion) is now definitely tapping like a sewing machine! So before I even attend to the heater matrix, I'll be wanting that sorted. The chap who did the repair (not a garage, was cash in hand) said the noise was most definitely an oil lifter (?) that was probably stuck and would pop back into action once the car had gotten up to temperature and been run for about 50 odd miles (now done 80 since getting it back). He said this usually happened when he repaired heads at Vauxhall (where he used to work). He did say if it didn't clear, bring it back to him to get looked at again. Sadly I think it is valve contact to a piston head and am going to ask him to repair it again What sort of work will this require to correct, presumably new valves? The head wont need skimmed again will it, and the new cambelt and water pump shouldn't need replaced again right?? Will it need new head bolts? I don't plan to pay for the repair seeing as it his error to correct, but i'd like someone to give me an idea as to the cost of parts needed to sort it please? I might offer to pay for some of the parts to ease things along (but maybe I won't!) - will see what he says first... ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:07
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Oh, is there any other reason it might make a tapping noise, just so i'm aware of any other bulls**t excuses (like friggin' oil lifters!!) that might come my way if the chap doesn't agree its valve contact.Does he need any special tool to time it up correctly, that he may not have realised he will have needed? It has PT80 cams, would that have caused confusion? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:09
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #60
cams+skim = oh feck.did he use a repair thickness gasket and how much was taken off? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:17
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rikky
đŸ¦” Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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did you tell him you had different cams?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #62
also do you know 100% that the bottom pulley is good?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #63
I very much doubt it's piston to valve contact that has caused it, it's probably valve to valve where they have tangled during installation and timing of the head. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #64
are you sure stan?...0.3mm skim and PT's...  worse case scenario of course.... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:30
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #65
seeing as you have cams, it does sound like some valves have tangled Dont rule out the tapping lifter though. When i did my cambelt, mine tapped like a goodun but after a good ragging, the lifters sorted them selfs out and its nice and quiet now. Take it for a seriously hard drive and see if it calms down. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 13:30
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #66
I did say it had different cams (but I wasn't the guy to give him the car, so whether it was translated to him or not?)Don't know about how much was skimmed, or whether a thicker gasket used? As for bottom pulley, I have no idea what you mean, but the car should have the aluminium RichW pulleys?? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 14:01
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #67
Niall wrote: seeing as you have cams, it does sound like some valves have tangled Dont rule out the tapping lifter though. When i did my cambelt, mine tapped like a goodun but after a good ragging, the lifters sorted them selfs out and its nice and quiet now. Take it for a seriously hard drive and see if it calms down. Hopefully this, I have yet to give it a good thrashing, which is what he recommended first. I'll try that first, and see if I can rule the problem out PT80s are incredibly mild though aren't they, not as aggressive as PT81's?? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 15:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #68
No, the inlet is identical to pt81.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2012 at 16:39
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #69
welshpug! wrote: are you sure stan?... 0.3mm skim and PT's... worse case scenario of course.... That can't be purely down to cams though Mei, it's only affected one pot, the others are all untouched. I suspect that failure was down to a 'tapper' where by the valve head snapped off. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 08:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #70
Not untouched, all inlets were marked, you can see the ring aound them where theyve been rubbing.I am not speculating here, this is hard evidence of how close to the wind many "respected" so called specialists are, and how clueless joe bloggs is. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 08:25
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #71
So can it be fixedIt'll be going back on Friday, but is I even worth it? Any idea of cost? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 08:53
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #72
With already being skimmed and what could be contact I'd say you're gonna need another head possibly |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 08:56
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #73
Buy my 77k engine for £350 and fit and forget ________________________________________  |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 09:00
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #74
Buy my engine for cheaper than Dan's which has had a timing belt and clutch then fit and forget   |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 09:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #75
what ratty said.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2012 at 09:47
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