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yippeekayay wrote:
Lovely set of speeelines available....
wrong offset c**t nugget
How did the track day go Matt? fancy a swap for a cliosport?
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 roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
wrong offset c**t nugget How did the track day go Matt? fancy a swap for a cliosport? |
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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i really like these. i could not bring myself to swap my m3 evo for one though when i last had an encounter with a dealership selling one. "they are ruthless, you will be amazed, same performance as your m3 mate". anyway, they look nice. the seats look big though________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 15:32
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #28
The seats would dwarf you Rick. Make you look like a baby in a childseat. You'd need an Isofix rollcage.________________________________________  |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 15:33
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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206  Your daughter's abit young yet to be buying her first car surely............  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 16:44
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: i really like these. i could not bring myself to swap my m3 evo for one though when i last had an encounter with a dealership selling one. "they are ruthless, you will be amazed, same performance as your m3 mate". anyway, they look nice. the seats look big though Please say that statement was followed up with a ride out in the m3 and him eating his words.... :p ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 19:11
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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I'm sure the interior is nicer than a 6 (let's face it, almost anything is) and it will be a technical improvement in some ways, and maybe even better built, but I just don't love these in the same way as I love the 306 shape. The 306 just looks right. I was never convinced by the 206 (or all subsequent Pugs to be honest) even when they were new. (And the fact I had an uptight and rude, bigging-herself-up-a-lot female work colleague with a blue 206 cabriolet cemented that opinion. She drove past me one day looking down her (somewhat large-ish) nose as she went). But I'll be very interested to see what you do with it Matt. Your 6 thread was fantastic and I use it for reference when working on my own car. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 19:27
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #32
What a day, was at the circuit at 7am to grab a garage as the weather looked changeable, so after signing on, the track was opened at 9am (open pitlane format), was out there straight away, on the 17" wheels with questionable road tyres on.As a comparison Rich was there in his stripped out rallye, caged, new r888's, decat and stainless exhaust, lowered and uprated suspension. Power wise the two cars are identical. Torque wise the 206 has the legs out of the hairpin, but in the faster stuff, Rich was edging away. Before the haters start - bear in mind the 206 is fully trimmed and on chinese rubber... After about 7 laps (full international circuit) Rich's oil temp was 140c+, the 206 sat at 100c all day long, so i could stop out for much longer. In the morning i changed wheels to some 15" GTI6 Steelies, with trashed r888's on, just to see if it made a difference, and yes it did. Acceleration was much better, and even though they were well past their best, they gave much better grip over the new road tyres. So there is plenty of potential there!!! Suspension wise the 206 is tired, so thats where the money will be spent next. The shagged 888's are being replaced with Federal 595 RS-R's in the near future and im looking at some coilovers for the front and some uprated dampers for the rear. Bushes at the front end will be changed for uprated ones and that should be it. The weather had a turn for the worse after lunch, with rain most of the afternoon, the chinese tyres were tbh, worse than s**t, quite comical if im honest. It was loos central, at least it gave me an idea of what the chassis was like past the limit. We gave it neck at 4pm and headed for home. I managed 154 miles on track today, and used about a tank of fuel and a 20litre jerry can, still got a 1/4 of a tank left, so better on fuel than the 306 also. Just sorting some pics out now, and some video footage i shot off both mine and rich's rallye.          ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 19:31
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Is that a mic taped above the exhaust?________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 20:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #34
 check out the loaded up front tyre on the 17"s!!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 20:26
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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For the record, this tyre is not "on" the wheel.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 20:32
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Ha ha - the 17"s are pure dogs**t. Yeah it was my Gopro mic taped on the rear bumper. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 20:38
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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matt evans wrote: ...the chinese tyres were tbh, worse than s**t, quite comical if im honest. It was loos central... Sounds like the 'Doublestar' tyres put on my car by the PO - treacherous is the best word to describe them, especially nasty in the wet; squirmy under braking and long stopping distances and frequent ABS activation. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 21:41
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Lowercase
Regular  Location: Uckfield Registered: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 227 Status: Offline |
Post #38
looks like your having fun in it mate! ________________________________________ 1992 205 Rallye - S2 Rallye Engine |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 22:32
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Looks like you had a good day! I did a freebie day at donny late in August up until then I'd forgotten how good donnington is! You didn't happen to see a certain wide arched mk 2 Astra there today did you?________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 22:44
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #40
jeffers wrote: Looks like you had a good day! I did a freebie day at donny late in August up until then I'd forgotten how good donnington is! You didn't happen to see a certain wide arched mk 2 Astra there today did you? I did, was that "redrallye"? I had a walk over to it a few times but no-one was near it, bonnet was off and the tools were out as well. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 22:51
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #41
matt evans wrote: jeffers wrote: Looks like you had a good day! I did a freebie day at donny late in August up until then I'd forgotten how good donnington is! You didn't happen to see a certain wide arched mk 2 Astra there today did you? I did, was that "redrallye"? I had a walk over to it a few times but no-one was near it, bonnet was off and the tools were out as well. Yep that's Ed |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 22:53
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #42
matt evans wrote: jeffers wrote: Looks like you had a good day! I did a freebie day at donny late in August up until then I'd forgotten how good donnington is! You didn't happen to see a certain wide arched mk 2 Astra there today did you? I did, was that "redrallye"? I had a walk over to it a few times but no-one was near it, bonnet was off and the tools were out as well. Yep 'twas Ed, had some 'wiring issues' I believe!  I was supposed to drop down myself today but ended up workin instead!  When you say the 'tools were out', do you mean Ed had his wide array of hammers(air cooled fine adjustment tools) and screwdrivers (chisels) out to try and bodge his already dodgy wiring?? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 15th Oct 2012 at 23:16
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #43
There were a number of sockets and a ratchet cast accross the rocker cover, but no Ed to be seen.I did see it running but was misfiring under boost it sounded like. My mate Jay was there in his 330+bhp Let Nova, and he called it a day at dinnertime when he split the chassis leg from the front crossmember AGAIN!! ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 08:49
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Looks like a good example mate, be cool to see where you go with it tbh, I'd have a gti180, even if it does make me a girl ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 19:53
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Looks fun, wish my Rallye was ready for trackday fun. How come you were fairly even in the twisties if he's caged and running semi slicks?Also, has your car got an oil temp gauge? I can't believe that it keeps the oil so much cooler, I would expect a combination of unresponsive gauge and perhaps a particularly cool sensor area? ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 20:01
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Are those tyres stretched over the alloys (as in not the correct width)The pic of it outside your crib on the previous page seems to look like it's imitating a VAG scene car ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job  |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 20:31
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Lecktorious
aka G.  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 920 Status: Offline |
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davewagon wrote: Are those tyres stretched over the alloys (as in not the correct width) The pic of it outside your crib on the previous page seems to look like it's imitating a VAG scene car They *should* be 205 wide. When I had mine fitted, I found the tyres did look a bit stretched. ________________________________________ '98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6 |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 20:55
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #48
So there should be a video or two then ...?________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 16th Oct 2012 at 22:24
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #49
The tyres are the correct 205 40 17 size as specified for the 180, they just move a lot under extreme cornering, however are reasonable on the road.As for the oil temps, the 180's got a much bigger oil temp gauge in the dash and the most i could get it to was 110c, even after 20 mins of hard lapping, on the road it sits at 90 and it only got to 110 after about 15 mins of circuit use. The rallye on the other hand gets to 140c within 4 hard laps, and he keeps going!!! Done about 6 trackdays on the same oil and it never misses a beat. For how long i dont know? Maybe the oil temps are lower on the 180 as its an alloy block, with better heat disperion??? As for looking like a girl, i'd be a pretty unfortunate pull, even for Ratty!!! LOL My mate Tintin (rs1600i) has got me a mint pair of Phase 2 crystals for it to replace the awful morettes, and im in two minds to get them black masked or not? Suspensions next - the 180's already run 21mm torsion bars and bigger rear ARB than the normal 2.0 gti and the rear beam has the sway bars that the estate has also. I suspect Carl may have lowered it a tad as well when he rebuilt the beam as it certainly needs to go no lower, so the rear will be treated to some Bilstein B8's, and the fronts will end up as B8/eibach 30mm set up. That should lose some of the front ride height and firm it up nicely. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 08:40
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Ed_van_dijk
Senior User  Location: Halesworth Registered: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 636 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Not a fan im afraid and i loved that astor you had! ________________________________________ Astor 6 |
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Posted 17th Oct 2012 at 16:19
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