Post #351
only needs to come off 16mm!________________________________________
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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 11:58
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #352
The dowels are only for alignment, if they're letting your gearbox bolts come loose then the box was already moving anyway (I.E. Bolts already loosening).If it's running rich have you checked the plugs + filter, especially with that power loss? ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 12:34
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pug_306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Great Hockham Registered: 28 May 2013 Posts: 1,594 Status: Offline |
Post #353
I've had a few 205 and 306s with no dowels in and the bolts coming undone. Fitted new dowels and bolts and has been fine. They take alot of stress off a bolt too.________________________________________ 1998 Supercharged White Rallye1992 205 GTi6 205 Turbo 340bhp |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 12:50
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #354
They're a split dowel, they won't take any real loading unless the face is already slipping (which means the bolts are already loose)________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 12:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #355
they may only be for alignment, but they do come loose without them in place...maybe the input shaft being offcentre introduces a vibration and a rotational force on the bellhousing that makes them come loose?! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 13:46
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #356
Oil filter was done in January, about 60 miles ago. I've not done the fuel filter in a while thinking about it, probably worth doing that.WP, to separate the box I still need to drop the fluid, remove N/S driveshaft, undo the mount, lower it all enough to actually move the box out enough. A couple of hours of work that I don't have time for! ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 13:46
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #357
welshpug! wrote: they may only be for alignment, but they do come loose without them in place... maybe the input shaft being offcentre introduces a vibration and a rotational force on the bellhousing that makes them come loose?! If it's rotating, the bolts are already coming loose. The only way it would make a difference would be if you were missing enough that the gearbox was no longer going up square so the input shaft wasn't true to the crank, then the extra vibration would loosen things. Either way, they still don't take any loading. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 15:07
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #358
Hope you get it sorted Dan  |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 18:23
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #359
Don't worry dan. I put my repaired gearbox in last Wednesday evening. Then had to take it out again on the thursday! So at least your getting more use out of it than that!I can get the car from 4 wheels on the floor to box on the floor in dead on an hour now it's so regular! |
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Posted 20th Jun 2017 at 22:51
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #360
I took the box out 2 weeks ago to put a new clutch in. Then took it out again 5 days ago to replace that clutch for another new one, I've done it enough recently! I would fix it and have ordered the parts to do it but I have a huge list of other stuff that needs doing first.I'll threadlock the remaining bolts and check they're all still present during and after quali. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 21st Jun 2017 at 09:16
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #361
Success! It survived the weekend and ended up with a reasonable result (before a stupid penalty anyway). Few issues cropped up, mainly with engine running which I'll start a dedicated thread for, but otherwise everything survived. I did manage to shear the bleed screw on the thermostat housing though, resulting in a bit of a bodge but it worked  Also got an issue with the rear tyres rubbing on the inner arch which they haven't before. I'm planning on getting some camber put on the rear anyway so this will be more of a problem in future. I think the best way to solve this is to see if I can get the arch moved inward a bit.  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 15:33
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #362
Was watching the timings to see how you got on. I feel your pain ref the bleed screw i did exactly the same on a track day lol |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 15:50
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #363
It was such a stupid thing. Wasn't really paying attention then I thought "this seems to go further than normal" then snap. Luckily I found a bolt in a random collection of stuff in the truck that fitted (after being cut down) and away I was. I'll buy another, proper bleed screw again though, just to be safe.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 15:54
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #364
I run 205 40 17 with 3 degrees with 20mm spacers ok dan, I have about 10mm left to play with too with no mods to the arch. maybe your axle has moved________________________________________ |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 16:53
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #365
Axle isn't a bad shout, I'll have a look.I don't want to space the rear at all, would rather have the arches moved than push the wheels out. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 16:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #366
has it ever been rebuilt?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Jun 2017 at 21:48
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #367
Nope, completely standard other than new TBs and ARB. I'm slowly rebuilding a spare axle to fit with new bearings, shafts etc. so maybe I should speed that up a bit!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 09:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #368
definitely!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 10:36
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #369
Plan is to move to a 30mm ARB with 0 toe and 2 degrees of camber. I'm still uncertain of the camber value, maybe 2.5 degrees. I need to look in to how that will change the car's handling.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 10:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #370
camber specifics wont alter handling that much, it will effect how it works the tyres, that's what will determine the camber you need.toe has more of a direct effect on turn in and stability, touring cars ran a significant amount of toe out, many people can't handle them! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 13:07
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #371
Yea I'm not brave enough for big amounts of toe out, 0 should be enough for me! Good point about camber, I run 2.5 up front so maybe 2 at the rear will be better________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 13:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #372
depends on tyres, stock is 1.3 ish.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 13:22
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #373
205/50/16 DZ03Gs. More camber will potentially give me more arch issues but maybe the beam fix will help that________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 13:27
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #374
A lot of the massive toe out on touring cars is to help generate heat in the rear tyres, not so much of an issue on anything short of full race slicks.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2017 at 18:56
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #375
DanYou see the f2000 spoiler, can you use it with the oe one? also how did you mount it to the boot??? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2017 at 16:38
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