But they won't which is the problem, hence the need for more admin.

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i have alot of respect for Kev for taking the time to monitor this thread and for speaking his mind on the matters discussed and letting us know how it is from his perspective. atleast we know that there is still some admin presence and some attempt at improvement. thankyou for posting Kev

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supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold
2010 megane rs250

So there's only two choices really. Ash hands over ownership or allows others (Admin) to modify script or it's a new site. I reckon if Ash doesn't respond and do something within a month or so then the only option is to start a fresh but possibly with the same admin (If they are willing) and the inclusion of Stan and Owain.

It would appear that Ash isn't going to do anything, well not soon anyway so there really is no other choice. That's just how I see it anyway, it's just my opinion on what I think needs to be done to get to where we want to be. And I use the term 'we' lightly, I will happily help in anyway possible but I'm no IT guru!

Thanks for reading and monitoring this thread Kev. I am glad it has been noted. I am a new member to this forum but have gained a great deal from it already. I hope this will ultimately put something back.

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I live work (to pay) for the 306

Phase 3 Astor. Built on Wednesday, 12th April 2000 in France.

Years of 'Creative Maintenance' mean this car is now much lighter and slightly more 'race' specced...

you're right, that's crazy!

I know, just throwing in a wild card really.

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Effectively yes. If ash doesn't tick the boxes and select new admins, we are still going to be moaning about this in a similar thread in a months/years time. Although I imagine the tone will change each thread until the inevitable happens.

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Senior Test Automation Engineer for the 306GTi6 Owners Club Forum

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Seems like everyone else has had their say, so I'll step in.

There's an awful lot of uninformed opinion in this thread, which for reasons unknown is being taken as fact. How so many people I've never met know so much about me is quite frankly amazing, and it saddens me that after so many years, the most active thread on here for some time is full of such resentment.

I've explained the reasoning behind the recent changes a number of times, but it's fallen of deaf ears each time, so I won't repeat myself here.

Every day I get around 20 emails asking for password resets, login problems and username changes, and every one of these gets a reply, so when I see lists of people who know nothing about me, commenting on my lack of commitment and the fact that I do nothing for the club, it doesn't fill me with enthusiasm, as comments like these do nothing but generate negativity from everyone else.

This is the third time I have rewritten the website in the last 9 years. Not edited, but written every line of every page. In the last 9 years I have spend many hundreds of hours writing tens of thousands of lines of code for this site.

I'm the first person to agree that I'm a busy man. I've got a wife, family, 2 cars, a house and a mortgage to pay. That doesn't give me a lot of spare time, but what time I do have, I prioritise the best I can. Regretfully, this is mostly resetting passwords and ensuring that people can access the site, which leaves minimal time for discussing how to solve angry mob problems.

I don't know how many people on this thread remember the first incarnation of the site? Honestly, it was terrible, and ground to a standstill in next to no time. The next rewrite was faster and way more efficient, but still had room for improvement, hence the need for Mk3. Despite what certain uninformed people have said in this thread, this new version is pretty spectacular, but I know it's not finished.

I appreciate that there are changes that need to be made, but for every person with a good recommendation, there are probably 10 with ... how do you say ... "not-so-good" recommendations. Implementing every suggestion made would, as well as taking up every waking minute of my time, would be less than productive, which is why everything is discussed with the Admin team, and only the approved changes get made.

I think my point is that maybe people shoud appreciate the fact that Admin have more to do than just lock threads, and just because we're not posting in the forums as much as some, doesn't make us absent.

Rant over.

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Ash - cheers for taking the time to get back to us rather than ignoring the issue. However it does raise a few questions.

If you spend all your time doing things like username changes and password resets, doesn't that show you that a bit of development time is needed to automate these? Doesn't it show you need more admins to do this work on your behalf?

No-one's saying you're lazy, just that the work that you just specified cannot be done by one person. Do you intend to spend time making changes? Would you be interested in letting other people work on the site? Would you allow moderators to appoint other moderators?

Believe me no-one's saying you've never given anything to the site, and if people had no respect for you then they would've just said "f*ck you Ash, I'm outta here" - and no-one's done that as far as I can see. All people are saying is that it's looking clear that you do not have the free time to run the club. That's not a dig, it's not a criticism, it's a fact that you've just confirmed.

Again - I'm by no means implying that every suggestion should be taken on board and implemented, but it should at least be answered. Just ignoring people is not the way to build a strong sense of community.

Please don't take this thread as a dig at you, it's a (largely) thought out list of suggestions as to how to save the site, and hopefully improve it going forward.



Yes, seriously. Why not?

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they have 11 mods/team managers and one webmaster on the 205 forum, a far slicker interface/whatever you want to call it, most ever online at one time was 321, 8.5k members, so not that busy but busier than here.

they do not charge for membership but do accept donations.

food for thought?

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Bring on the Trumpets.

No offence Ash; but your response and sig quote comes across as "like it or lump it" and not particularly constructive.

You have always said that there is no financial benefit in operating the site so I struggle to see why you need to hold the reigns so tightly when you have said you are so busy and have so many people offering help.

Ive not owned a 6 for something like 7 or 8 years so the technical section has no real interest anymore; I guess what im getting at is that the banter is what makes this site and if that goes elsewhere so will I.

So are the 20 pages of useful suggestions going to be ignored or taken on board?

I couldn't see a comment either way.

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Ph2.5 Nile - Slowly trying to de-East London it and restore to former glory...
Built on the 9 Febuary 1999 - Tuesday's car..is full of pace?

Currently looking slightly molested due to some c*nt trying to get into it..

According to the forum Social Worker, because I work in IT, I am socially retarted..

As for the "angry Mob" phrase - that a charming way to describe the paying members who are striving to improve the site.

Shit poor reply in my eyes.

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1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)
2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...)
2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow