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mattgti6phase2

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So I'm in the Market for a few car treats in the next month or so, I fancy a rich w flywheel however for roughly £250 are they worth it and do they make a considerable difference? Along with this Im going to purchase a rallye idler and tensioner as the rest of my AC has been removed. Will this also be noticeable?

Many thanks Matt.

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 20:47
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For 250 id be looking to mmake sure the suspension is all new.once thats done id look at decent brake pas,discs and fluids.if thats all done flywheel is a good mod and you might as well change the clutch while your there
Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 20:53
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roland rat wrote:
For 250 id be looking to mmake sure the suspension is all new.once thats done id look at decent brake pas,discs and fluids.if thats all done flywheel is a good mod and you might as well change the clutch while your there


Cheers ratty.

Suspension is just over 30k old though. New discs and pads are to be changed once this set are done. Was thinking dimple grooved discs any good? Annoyingly my clutch has only done 15k Thumbs down

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 20:58
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Clutch should be fine then,flywheels are very good and make a noticable difference Thumbs up
Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 21:07
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Excellent. I know they don't offer any more power but surely a weight saving and more eager power delivery???

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car spins up very quickley and reminds you of the sporty car you had when you first got your gti6, have had the problem though where the starter takes the teeth off the new shiney flywheel though

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 21:55
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Get Rich's P bushs as well. Well worth it.
Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 21:56
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techdw wrote:
Get Rich's P bushs as well. Well worth it.


This. Yes

Haven't got the Flywheel so can't comment on that, but the bushes are definitely worth it.
Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 21:57
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i had one fitted last week, albeit with a few other things... clutch, gearbox, driveshafts, exhaust... and the list goes on. anyway, i believe the flywheel has made it a free-er revving engine, it picks up nicely now and all my gear changes are perfectly smooth Big grin although that may also be partly due to the other new parts. im going to recommend it, Rich is a great guy and his parts are of a very good quality and very popular. popular because they are good and do what he says they do. as for if its worth spending 250 plus fitting (unless you plan to fit it yourself) is one only you can decide, if you can afford it then yes, but if money is tight then i'd wait. shame you didnt do it with the clutch

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 21:59
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Need someone to fit it for cheapy cheap?Whistle

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:01
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gtisid wrote:
car spins up very quickley and reminds you of the sporty car you had when you first got your gti6, have had the problem though where the starter takes the teeth off the new shiney flywheel though

oh, this im curious about, mine has some starter noise on my new flywheel, should i worry?

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Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged.

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:03
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Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged.

yeah exactly, i thought it was a starter issue. now im slightly worried. dont really want to have to get another flywheel if this goes wrong

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:05
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Mines fine, touch wood. I thought it was only the old batch that had problems with the oe motor? As of the starting noises, what do they sound like?

Like m306 suggests, they are worth it if you do it yourself, by the sounds of it Matt you seem quite handy when it comes to cars?

Edit: and my starter was out of line for a couple of weeks before Rich realised I forgot to move the locating dowel from the old gearbox to the new one Doh The starting noise was horrible and all the teeth are still there.

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:37
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Mines fine, touch wood. I thought it was only the old batch that had problems with the oe motor? As of the starting noises, what do they sound like?

Like m306 suggests, they are worth it if you do it yourself, by the sounds of it Matt you seem quite handy when it comes to cars?

sounds rough, like its stripping teeth. my first thought was that the starter wasn't disengaging quick enough but now thinking it could be something else Dunno

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:40
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just seen your edit Paul, i had Miles do mine along with one of his recon boxes so should've all been done correctly. i've no reason to doubt his fitting, may get him to look it over though to see what he thinks

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:44
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mattgti6phase2

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This worries me to guys. I recently fitted a new starter as my battery killed my old due to not enough ampage getting to it. That said though i would be utterly disappointed if I fitted the flywheel for the teeth to be stripped not long after.why does this happen? Surely the spec would be the same as o.e Dunno

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:47
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On Gman's car and Hovis16 the starter dowel is present, all aligned correctly and still makes the noise.
I have an older batch flywheel and no problems at all.
Gman's you can actually see the metal filings.

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:52
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techdw wrote:
Get Rich's P bushs as well. Well worth it.


I take it these reduce wish bone movement? How much????

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Loads Smile

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paul_13 wrote:
On Gman's car and Hovis16 the starter dowel is present, all aligned correctly and still makes the noise.
I have an older batch flywheel and no problems at all.
Gman's you can actually see the metal filings.


f*ck that! Obviously once this happens your fooked!

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paul_13 wrote:
On Gman's car and Hovis16 the starter dowel is present, all aligned correctly and still makes the noise.
I have an older batch flywheel and no problems at all.
Gman's you can actually see the metal filings.

im sure mine is fitted correctly too, this is a concern.

i suppose a solution is to never stop LOL

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 22:54
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Don't get me wrong lovely looking piiece of kit, really bought my 205 gti6 alive. Spins up real quick and makes it drive brilliantly.
Just the starter ring gear that needs to be addressed.

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 23:07
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paul_13 wrote:
Don't get wrong lovely looking piiece of kit, really bought my 205 gti6 alive. Spins up real quick and makes it drive brilliantly.
Just the starter ring gear that needs to be addressed.

agreed, when running it's great, makes the drive alot nicer. if you're too concerned Matt then just dont turn it off LOL

seriously though, its a work of art, very nice looking bit of kit. and when comparing to standard you can feel its alot lighter. and the drivability has been mentioned

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Posted 29th Oct 2011 at 23:11
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mattgti6phase2

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So to summarise. They're great until the starter motor completely nails it?

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