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Easy to make if your good at that kind of thing, however if your like me there not too dear to buy and there's a site that sells these only, I'm not sure about safety of doing this without bunging last pipe at manifold off, I'd have to have an expert opinion in that but everything I've read says it's safe and it's only getting the boost it would get anyway so should be good for testing the inlet manifold and injector seals eg aswell. I plan on testing mine before mapping so I know Its bang on.

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Posted 16th Jan 2012 at 21:14
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Cheers Andy, looked at the videos on ebay and it seems easy enough. Rang my mate (as he likes making things like this) and he says he has got one already, so will get it checked out at the weekend Thumbs up

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Posted 16th Jan 2012 at 21:57
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Decided to have a go at removing some of the unwanted brackets that are spot welded in. Now I have never done this before so didnt really know what I was doing. As the drill bits are flat topped, I assume this is so you dont penetrate the metal underneath, well, this wasnt the case for me. Most of them I ended up going through both bits Doh Laugh

I dont have a garage, so extension lead and a light will do the job Wink





Some of them I actually managed to do it properly



Cage coming in handy for holding the light at a better angle



Now I have removed the spot welds, they still seem pretty secure to the car. So will have a go tomoro once I have looked out a prybar or hammer/chisel.

Any suggestions? Dunno

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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:06
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BFOH. Yes

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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:11
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Post #355
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BFOH. Yes


Laugh

Thought that would be the answer on here!

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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:21
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Just read this entire thread. Top work buddy.

I'd love to charge my Rallye but the Mrs would execute me I reckon.
Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 12:23
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Just read this entire thread. Top work buddy.

I'd love to charge my Rallye but the Mrs would execute me I reckon.


Had some time to kill then? Laugh Hope it was enjoyable to read.

Thanks for the comments, and I think if I had a long term missus, I probably wouldnt of done it.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 13:03
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Post #358
drilling out spot welds without breaking the 2nd skin in a twat of a job. I would drill the top skin a bit bigger, as the spot welds are not always round, and often larger than the mark on the surface, otherwise you can easily rip/distort the 2nd skin when you chisel off the bracket.

You can make/buy a drill that only makes a very small hole in the 2nd skin, and cuts a completely flat hole in the first skin.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 13:09
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drilling out spot welds without breaking the 2nd skin in a twat of a job. I would drill the top skin a bit bigger, as the spot welds are not always round, and often larger than the mark on the surface, otherwise you can easily rip/distort the 2nd skin when you chisel off the bracket.


Ahh thanks mate, yeah they still seem pretty tight to the car!

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You can make/buy a drill that only makes a very small hole in the 2nd skin, and cuts a completely flat hole in the first skin.


You mean a spot weld drill bit? Razz If so, thats what I used and can be done, its just realising when you have gone through the bit you need. On most of them I thought I had gone through the bracket, so stopped to have a look. Then thought, "ahh maybe a little bit more" which was immediately followed by "oh tits, ive gone straight through" Laugh

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 13:18
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You mean a spot weld drill bit? Razz



Hard to tell from the picture your drill bit but it does not look to have a small "centralising" point in the middle, without which it cannot be completely flat ended, (as it would just wobble around all over the place)


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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 13:28
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Post #361
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cjm_harris wrote:


You mean a spot weld drill bit? Razz



Hard to tell from the picture your drill bit but it does not look to have a small "centralising" point in the middle, without which it cannot be completely flat ended, (as it would just wobble around all over the place)




Yeah the picture isnt very clear, but yeah its flat topped and has a small central point as you described Smile

You can see in some of the pictures that there is a drilled bit, with a small hole in the middle (if that makes sense)

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 13:48
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Post #362
I have one of those drill bits too, and had the same problem. Mine certainly aren't the neatest

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 14:37
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I have one of those drill bits too, and had the same problem. Mine certainly aren't the neatest


How did you remove the brackets after the welds had been removed? (assuming you removed as much of the weld as I have)

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 14:44
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bertrum wrote:
Just read this entire thread. Top work buddy.

I'd love to charge my Rallye but the Mrs would execute me I reckon.


Had some time to kill then? Laugh Hope it was enjoyable to read.

Thanks for the comments, and I think if I had a long term missus, I probably wouldnt of done it.


Time to kill? Yes, work for 12 hours. Lol. And women, bloody killjoys.
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clen666 wrote:
I have one of those drill bits too, and had the same problem. Mine certainly aren't the neatest


How did you remove the brackets after the welds had been removed? (assuming you removed as much of the weld as I have)


Got p*ssed off and bashed them off. Hence not very neat LOL

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Post #366
is there a lot of weight to doing by doing this?

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:05
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is there a lot of weight to doing by doing this?


Not really, but I am at the point where have to take out loads of little bits to make up an extra few kilos. The brackets are no longer needed so they may as well be removed Yes

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:08
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buzzbrightyear wrote:
Easy to make if your good at that kind of thing, however if your like me there not too dear to buy and there's a site that sells these only, I'm not sure about safety of doing this without bunging last pipe at manifold off, I'd have to have an expert opinion in that but everything I've read says it's safe and it's only getting the boost it would get anyway so should be good for testing the inlet manifold and injector seals eg aswell. I plan on testing mine before mapping so I know Its bang on.


Rich w told me to remove and block off the last pipe/joint before manifold as all valves won't close at once so it's going to send the air down the exhaust.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:24
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buzzbrightyear wrote:
Easy to make if your good at that kind of thing, however if your like me there not too dear to buy and there's a site that sells these only, I'm not sure about safety of doing this without bunging last pipe at manifold off, I'd have to have an expert opinion in that but everything I've read says it's safe and it's only getting the boost it would get anyway so should be good for testing the inlet manifold and injector seals eg aswell. I plan on testing mine before mapping so I know Its bang on.


Rich w told me to remove and block off the last pipe/joint before manifold as all valves won't close at once so it's going to send the air down the exhaust.


Thats what I was going to do anyways Smile

Remove hose from exit of charger, bung it up. Remove hose from end of manifold and bung it up. In one of the bungs, drill a hole for an air line fixing. Make sure its all air tight etc. So all I am testing is the boost pipework and intercooler Thumbs up

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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 11:01
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Used it again, broken it again Sad f*cking car! Laugh

On a spirited drive, went over a slight bump and lost the use of accelerator. Press it, does nothing, changed down gears and still changes, went to neutral and its cut out. Now will turn over but not fire. Fuel pump is not priming.

- Pressed inertia switch
- Checked sensors and wiring

Need to check fuel pump relay etc, also is there a fuse associated that I can check?

Also, car runs an unlocked ECU so no immobiliser. When I had this problem a year or so ago (pre supercharged) it was down to immobiliser, but fuel pump and relay were replaced then.

Any ideas chaps? Smile

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Posted 21st Jan 2012 at 15:29
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Bad connection on fuel pump relay?

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Posted 21st Jan 2012 at 15:42
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Same happened to me two weeks ago. Left it over night and it started working...... I was quite low on petrol but after putting in 5litres it wouldn't start so I tow it home.

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Posted 21st Jan 2012 at 16:02
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Post #373
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. And women, bloody killjoys.


Seconded LOL My mrs is going to love getting in and out of the four point harnesses, got enough shit when I installed the 3 points with the seatbelt buckle in the middle!

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Used it again, broken it again Sad f*cking car! Laugh

On a spirited drive, went over a slight bump and lost the use of accelerator. Press it, does nothing, changed down gears and still changes, went to neutral and its cut out. Now will turn over but not fire. Fuel pump is not priming.

- Pressed inertia switch
- Checked sensors and wiring

Need to check fuel pump relay etc, also is there a fuse associated that I can check?

Also, car runs an unlocked ECU so no immobiliser. When I had this problem a year or so ago (pre supercharged) it was down to immobiliser, but fuel pump and relay were replaced then.

Any ideas chaps? Smile


My Rallye did this once on the motorway in heavy rain.

Coasted to the services, left it 5 minutes and then it worked again fine, never knew what caused it and it was fine for the next 12 months! Roll eyes

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Posted 22nd Jan 2012 at 06:38
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Been hanging out my arse today after a heavy night last night so havent checked anything out on the car bar attempting to start it. Still doesnt work, thought would give it a shot incase it decided to fix itself Roll eyes

Also thought would share the towing fail we had getting the car home. Was towed using a straight bar which neither me or the guy towing had used before. Now I know it was going to be a mission as my tow eye is on the opposite side as the car towing me, so bar was diagonal, meaning I was much closer.

When turning at the junction onto my road, I basically got pulled into the back of his car. Dont think they actually hit (very close though) but it seemed our towing points took the brunt of the force.

Doh Laugh


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Posted 22nd Jan 2012 at 17:17
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