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lotekWhats going on with the pipes?
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 bellcp306td
Regular  Location: Bedlington Registered: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 166 Status: Offline |
Whats going on with the pipes? Chris |
 Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 17:16
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #27
i need those 100mm l bend pipes so i can use my existing braided brake hoses. |
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Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 17:38
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bellcp306td
Regular Location: Bedlington Registered: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 166 Status: Offline |
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ok sorry can't help, I just got new Braded lines made.________________________________________ Where did the road go!Chris |
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Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 17:46
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[l\'e$kro]
Newbie  Location: cork City Registered: 16 Feb 2009 Posts: 40 Status: Offline |
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I suggest you use a set of 283x26 discs from a gti-6 or a 307 Hdi, they are centered with the calipers and won't squeal as much as the Xantia 288x28 ones which have the wrong ofsetNicolas ________________________________________ 205 gti xu10j4rsms2 extra sequential |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 19:43
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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lotek wrote: i need those 100mm l bend pipes so i can use my existing braided brake hoses. I have some mate  They are used but you can have them  PM me if you want me to get them over to you  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 19:48
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
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[l\'e$kro] wrote: I suggest you use a set of 283x26 discs from a gti-6 or a 307 Hdi, they are centered with the calipers and won't squeal as much as the Xantia 288x28 ones which have the wrong ofset Nicolas so i can just use my existing discs?? wont they be too small for the pad?? |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 19:57
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Not sure but iirc if using standard discs the pistons can reach maximum travel and maybe pop out if your pads are low. Think the 406 brembos require 28mm width discs as min. Not 100% sure |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 20:20
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
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ok xantia ones it is then cheers. will get some cheap jobbies and spend some more on pads.cheers |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 20:27
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #34
you will never get rid of the noise unless you go to 330mm bell and rotors!I couldnt stand the noise so i sold my set and got ash's 310mm kit with 225 brembos. no noise and much better calipers. |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 21:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,851 Status: Offline |
Post #35
don't have to have 330mm, could go for a stock diameter 305mm belled disc and rotor.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Oct 2009 at 21:54
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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^True. I only said 330 as thats what ash's kits used. |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 00:16
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bellcp306td
Regular Location: Bedlington Registered: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 166 Status: Offline |
Post #37
There is no noise free solution that i know of. i used to run them with a 307 110 Hdi disk. They are better then the 6 brakes but not much better. ________________________________________ Where did the road go!Chris |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 18:04
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anderoo
Seasoned Pro  Location: Castle Cary Registered: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 9,222 Status: Offline |
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lotek wrote: i need those 100mm l bend pipes so i can use my existing braided brake hoses. Carl (mech_repairs) can make these up for you.  ________________________________________ Pics of my 6My 6 on Google Video thanks to coxy306Xsi |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 18:51
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: Backing shims on the pads, lightly grooved/2 piece/wavy discs, chamfer pads, damped sliders... Stop teasing me you bas**rd, I want them now!   ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 19:43
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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So do I! I'm getting bored with no milling machine to play with ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 19:48
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Can't you make them with a file and a drill? Like a propper engineer could  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 19:51
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #42
________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 21st Oct 2009 at 19:52
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tyerz
Regular Location: newark Registered: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 342 Status: Offline |
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jus a thought on this one cuz im planning on fitting brembos but now not so sure but would a 406 V6 coupe hub conversion not be an do-able and sort the problem out?? |
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Posted 18th Nov 2009 at 19:48
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anderoo
Seasoned Pro Location: Castle Cary Registered: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 9,222 Status: Offline |
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If it is I'm not sure it'd sort it out anyway, They still squeal on the 406's and the Fiat Coupe's they were fitted to as standard.________________________________________ Pics of my 6My 6 on Google Video thanks to coxy306Xsi |
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Posted 18th Nov 2009 at 20:08
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tyerz
Regular Location: newark Registered: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 342 Status: Offline |
Post #45
ahh right, hmmmmm not sure if to put em on or not now |
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Posted 18th Nov 2009 at 23:40
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vts_gav
Regular  Location: Redcar Registered: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 367 Status: Offline |
Post #46
latter xsara vts's use the 26nn thick discs ideal for brembo calipers |
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Posted 19th Nov 2009 at 01:41
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #47
im still trying to figure out what discs we can use for the brembos other than the xantia onesgti6 discs sit offset, gti 180 discs fit ok? 406 coupe discs wrong offset? xsara hdi estate 2001 , Seem ideal? 283x26 307 lx 283x23 usable? what other cars discs are an option? the xantias are OVERLY heavy. why cant the 406 coupe discs be used? |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 21:35
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #48
The late Xsara disc could be a good option. Someone else has mentioned them on here before and yes the Xantia ones do seem pretty heavy, however not a million miles off the normal GTi6 discs.Was going to weigh everything when I changed over. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 22:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,851 Status: Offline |
Post #49
following this with a little interest, I'm still on 266x20.5mm my discs apparently weigh 4.7 kg, the gti6 283 x 22mm disc is 5.95kg, the C5 discs commonly used is the same as the Late Xsara discs, 6.74kg. 283 x 26, 34mm height. one thing I can't remember about the 405/6 hub is whether the radius of the lugs are the same as the other cars (106/205/206/309/306/307) what I do know is that the offset to the hub is a lot lower hence why its not possible to use the discs on a 306 (and why BBS made the special Coupe wheels) a 406 V6 disc is; 305 x 28mm, 28mm height, 7.9 KG  if the caliper sits at the same radius, a 307 2.0 HDI 135 disc looks to be exactly the right spec to fit; 302 x 26 - 34.1mm height (same height as the C5 discs, but a lot larger diameter, this may help against squeal.) they weigh 8.42 kg though  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 23:25
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #50
How much do the Xantia ones weigh?And what height/size etc are they? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 12th Dec 2009 at 23:37
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