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 phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #1051
^Been there, done that, straight in the eye, it's slightly unpleasant.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
 Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 05:52
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1052
phillipm wrote: ^Been there, done that, straight in the eye, it's slightly unpleasant. f*ck that, I got thinners in the eye, face and scalp and that burned my skin badly enough thanks!  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 05:54
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #1053
 Arc Eye pain x 100 ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 05:57
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1054
phillipm wrote: Arc Eye pain x 100 It was agony, the worst thing is water does'nt seem to neutralise it or wash it off, you just have to keep splashing water at the affected areas and wait till the burning stops, nasty.  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 12:55
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #1055
daveyboy wrote: you just have to keep splashing water at the affected areas and wait till the burning stops, nasty. Sounds like something I could really get into  Is there any advantage to running the lines inside the car rather than outside? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 12:58
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #1056
i got fuel in my eye once, was playing around trying to get an 205 8v started and fuel squirted direct out of injector to my eye. jesus thats painfull________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 14:06
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #1057
stop corrosion etc and stop them being ripped from tank/pump if you fall off the track id imagine  |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 14:07
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1058
owain wrote: daveyboy wrote: you just have to keep splashing water at the affected areas and wait till the burning stops, nasty. Sounds like something I could really get into Is there any advantage to running the lines inside the car rather than outside? As Rick says, keeps them out of harms way, makes working on them/inspecting them easier. BUT, you must buy non permeable hose that is rated for use inside a cockpit. It's like a hard nylon tube inside the braiding and takes a different type of hose fitting with an olive. If you use the ordinary stainless braided nitrile rubber hose you will have a car that stinks of fuel and makes you feel sick as the rubber is semi permeable and lets out vapour.(Does'nt leak as such but very unpleasant in the crew compartment) ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 17:41
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #1059
Good answer  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 17:43
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1060
I probably would'nt bother on anything other than an out and out race car as the costs to do all this get a bit silly. Besides, once you have one line braided, you will end up doing them all!...£££  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 17:43
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #1061
ive got braided fuel line inside my 205 atm, i bought my whole setup second hand but i don't think its meant for the inside as it smells a lot. in the process of either putting it to the outside or replacing the braided with the correct stuff.________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 17:56
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #1062
There's special line's you have to use if your going to run it inside of the car. Can't remember what it is, PTFE lined maybe? It's more expensive though. I think you have to use it to meet the regs too. I have used aluminium hard pipe for my fuel lines. You can bend it nice and easily with a little tube bender and its powder coated so it doesn't corrode. It doesn't let the 'smell' through either. For the flexi bits I used Nomex braided fuel hose, which is ace, but if I wasn't getting a discount, I wouldn't have used it, as its a little bit expensive! ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 18:27
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #1063
8mm copper pipe also pretty good for fuel lines, can flare the ends also to stop any potential leaks________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 18:37
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #1064
With fuel soon, Copper won't last long at all________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 18:44
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #1065
oh, whys that miles?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 18:49
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1066
Probably something nasty in it that eats the copper away. I think the fuel rated hose is 600 series or something like that. It's the propper stuff anyway.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 19:54
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #1067
Yep, petrol will dissolve copper oxide (formed from the hydrogen/sulphur and oxidisers in the fuel), albeit pretty slowly.Not so much of a worry for the copper pipe, but it can leave the deposits in the injectors which build up over time... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2011 at 20:27
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #1068
The fuel mix is changing again soon, the FHV is getting into a right song and dance about it with old SU carb's etc________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 1st Jul 2011 at 02:44
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1069
Rods arrived today, expect to see pics of engines going back together soon...No progress today, too busy swimming after my Jetski  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 4th Jul 2011 at 05:43
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #1070
You should of got Rob to make your dash bar at least then you know it would of fit, and I have some gusset plate here if you want it |
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Posted 5th Jul 2011 at 01:50
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1071
chris with a pug wrote: You should of got Rob to make your dash bar at least then you know it would of fit, and I have some gusset plate here if you want it I had a few reasons for not getting Rob to make it, he needed a sample for the bend radius and he only sets up his bender when he has enough work to make it worth it. I can make the CC one fit easily enough myself. As for the gusset plates I got the triangular ones that strengthen up the door x-bars. Right, progress report. Made a little headway tonight on the sump baffle kit, space is really tight so I've had to revise my initial plan slightly (Make it up as I go along ) This involved cutting the sides off the box and welding on some new ones that fitted the shape of the sump base a little better, this will allow me much more room for a nice free flowing trap door arrangement to bring oil to the pickup on righthanders. I have a plan for how to get it to work for lefthanders but you will have to wait and see that. Anyway, here are a few shots of my contraption.The oil pump is screwed to the wooden baton to get it to sit at the right height more or less for the mock-up.       There is a protrusion on the oil pump body just in the wrong place that fouled the box, so I had to let in a corner piece.    Fitted much better after...  There is also a dogleg section that drops away on the sump floor, this created quite a gap in the corner of the box which could allow too much oil to escape away from the pickup under cornering, so I covered it up with the addition of this plate. It has a drain hole right in the corner so it won't hold any cruddy oil when the time comes to change it.       Still have to make dividers and gates etc. but it's coming along, what with that and this Accusump I think oil issues should be the least of my worries. Paranoid much? I think so!    Lastly, here are the new rods, sure you've all seen them before but I think they are worth a second, third and fourth look      They must be about 2/3 the weight of a standard rod and the finish is outstanding  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 7th Jul 2011 at 04:01
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #1072
This is me resisting the urge to make a "rod on" joke.I'm getting the distinct impression you're a little worried about oil starvation, would that be safe to say? Very impressive ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Jul 2011 at 13:18
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #1073
owain wrote: This is me resisting the urge to make a "rod on" joke. I'm getting the distinct impression you're a little worried about oil starvation, would that be safe to say? Very impressive Maybe a little, lets just call it an insurance policy on my costly engine ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 7th Jul 2011 at 13:45
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #1074
Loving the Marigolds |
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Posted 7th Jul 2011 at 14:30
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #1075
chris with a pug wrote: Loving the Marigolds What marigolds? Have you never seen Jim in the flesh? Got a picture of him at a meet last year:  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Jul 2011 at 14:35
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