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Post #1
Thought i's start a proper thread as these are progressing nicely.

About christmas i decided that as much as i love and like the brembo's enough was enough with the noise i was getting. So set about trying to find a solution.

As was


After looking around i wanted something that would also be:
  • Cheaper pads
  • Cheaper discs
  • fit more designs of wheel (aiming for cyclones but not too fussed)

  • After a bit of digging i chose Wilwood Caliper.
    Cheaper than the likes of AP and a good choice of fitments.
    They do a kit designed for pug fitment, as Damian had on his Shitter ™. I didn't go for these as they run special 21mm wide discs only available from supplier.
    So first up was to find something that would fit the std disc. This would keep the cost of the discs down and make things easier.
    So after i worked out piston area and finding one that was around the same as the Brembo's and more than the Std size caliper, and taking into account the disc width i went for these puppys with some Wilwood pads. Radial mount Midilites. (midilites have dust seals)



    Sat on the disc



    Next i set about measuring up for the brackets.
    I'm not that technically minded but took the plunge.
    After my first measurements i realised i cocked up but only on one measurement.

    But i did do one thing for me, i realised that the bolts i needed need to to be different to normal of the shelf bolts as the hole was to small to get a socket onto


    Back to the drawing boardSad
    After realising my mistakes i came back with another design of bracket.




    Lat week i finally manged to lay my hands on the brackets Big grin






    Today i managed to get the right bolts.
    They were a bas**rd to find as i needed 3/8 bolts (caliper hole is 3/8) The tap i had was UNF and the heads needed to be capped.
    Found a really good ole boy in Plymouth that had them on shelve in the right sizeShock

    So here is the finished product waiting to be fitted



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    Posted 19th Aug 2008 at 21:44
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    Welly wrote:
    I didn't go for these as they run special 21mm wide discs only available from supplier.


    tell me about it Angry
    rally design seem to keep putting there price up everytime i need a new set
    Posted 19th Aug 2008 at 22:49
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    When do we find out if they fit then? Love

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    Posted 19th Aug 2008 at 23:07
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    My supplier does all sorts of unf and unc fitments
    Posted 19th Aug 2008 at 23:21
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    This is quite interesting... I've only just upgraded to 305mm brembo's and the stopping power is awesome. But the rears seem a little underpowered.. Would've liked to keep the cyclones.Sad But if you plan on doing some more sets after testing... i may well be inSmile

    Standard pads on the wilwoods arent so good... Supprisingly... the RED stuff pads are a worthwhile upgradeYes

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 01:12
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    you can get 1144's for them from rallydesign, depends what you've got with them though.

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 01:19
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    damien wrote:
    Welly wrote:
    I didn't go for these as they run special 21mm wide discs only available from supplier.


    tell me about it Angry
    rally design seem to keep putting there price up everytime i need a new set

    If you don't mind me asking what are they these days?

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:23
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    phillipm wrote:
    When do we find out if they fit then? Love

    As soon as i get time basically.
    Need a dry run to check fitment, as soon as that's been checked they will come apart again and be threadlocked up and hoses made.
    With 3 days for a weekend i should be able to sort something.
    You'll be the first to know

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:25
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    mr swampy s16 wrote:
    My supplier does all sorts of unf and unc fitments

    Cheers, found a really good guy today.

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:26
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    They were ~

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:27
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    mabgti wrote:

    Standard pads on the wilwoods arent so good... Supprisingly... the RED stuff pads are a worthwhile upgradeYes

    I'd beg to differ there.
    Rallydesign prices, Wilwood pad graphs.

    To start with i will be running Bp-10's.
    Which are good all round pads, sort of fast road and track.
    As pads are cheaper than the brembo fitments and only take 60 seconds (literally) to change i'll get some more as and when.

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:43
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    We've used 'A' before, but it takes a hard stop to get a little heat there before they come alive, might be a bit variable on the road though.

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 02:42
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    Looking good Welly, any idea on the overall price?

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 13:49
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    rallyestyle wrote:
    Looking good Welly, any idea on the overall price?

    LOL that would be telling.

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 13:58
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    Cheers Thumbs up

    I know you got the brackets done as a favour but would you factor in around

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 14:12
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    rallyestyle wrote:
    Cheers Thumbs up

    I know you got the brackets done as a favour but would you factor in around

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 14:20
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    Brackets and bolts i'd factor give or take

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 14:23
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    Welly wrote:
    damien wrote:
    Welly wrote:
    I didn't go for these as they run special 21mm wide discs only available from supplier.


    tell me about it Angry
    rally design seem to keep putting there price up everytime i need a new set

    If you don't mind me asking what are they these days?


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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 14:31
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    If you can get the brackets copied, I will have a set......... if the price is right.

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    they do look awsome any pics behind the cyclones yet?
    what you doing with the brembos and wheels?

    where did you get the brackets made? and would they be interested in making more? i see a group buy coming on here!!!!

    wheres midlife gone Dry LOL

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 21:39
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    He's got 330mm's, so unless he's putting these on the back... LOL

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 21:51
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    are these to run on standard discs ? or 330's?

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 22:50
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    psjunkie wrote:
    are these to run on standard discs ? or 330's?
    Completely std 6 disc's

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    Posted 20th Aug 2008 at 22:52
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    I have all the answers

    And pictures as well Whistle

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    Posted 21st Aug 2008 at 01:09

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