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 whiterallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: York Registered: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,647 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Amazing what can be done in a garage these days.Always liked these. I'll perhaps echo Silver6 one this one. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.  ________________________________________ R.I.P Pete Sims aka PeteGti6Gone, But far from forgotten. |
 Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 04:33
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joney
Seasoned Pro  Location: Northampton/Warminster Registered: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 7,345 Status: Offline |
Post #27
khj100 wrote: joney wrote: quality work kev, I hope you enjoy it on track and haven't broken the bank too badly in the process! I've always been a fan of the 16v rallyes, so it's cool to see it get taken yet another step further!  Cheers Joney. Bank has been well and truly shafted for many years now... so what's another few grand, eh!?  haha, sounds just like my philosophy! I'm gradually getting out of my debt from student life/movng house, but still managing to max out the bank every month getting stuff for our track car as well  ________________________________________ "That bit's flat"P1 2.0 8v XSi track-Slag -sub 9:00 on the Nordschleife with toyo R888 tyres and 140bhp  200SX now on the road... just gotta make it handle like the 306 did now! |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:03
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Kev, you can run cyclones on your brake setup using 3mm shims. 15" ultra leggies also fit without spacing (I'm running an identical setup)What are you doing with your old engine/KMS/Diff? ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:37
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khj100
Senior User  Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
Post #29
dangerous dave wrote: Kev, you can run cyclones on your brake setup using 3mm shims. 15" ultra leggies also fit without spacing (I'm running an identical setup) What are you doing with your old engine/KMS/Diff? Cheers Dave. I'm still debating about the cyclones. You're talking about spacing the caliper off the hub I take it? Even with 5mm wheel spacers they still snag. All the surplus stuff will be up for sale pretty soon. Already have a few people interested in the KMS and Quaife'd box, plus the 708s will be going into my engine eventually. Not sure what to do with the rest of the engine - was an incredibly solid unit and still on a low mileage - I might hang onto it for when the inevitable happens...! ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:42
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farmer
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Surely you should keep hold of the box too for when 3rd gear strips itself of teeth.Or is that just 306 boxes that do that.... Anyway, car looks Cant wait to see it out on track ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:44
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racerxbon
Regular  Location: Fife Registered: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 184 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I really enjoy reading threads like this. Its really temps me with a supercharge conversion. Great job  ________________________________________ My Diablo 206 GTI-6Track Video @ Rockingham |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:47
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #32
 thought i posted on here, obv. not. looks very tidy indeed  shoulda' bought my black cyclones  think they'd look brilliant on the 106very clean work though indeed. prefer the looks of the 106 over the saxo ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:49
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #33
farmer wrote: Surely you should keep hold of the box too for when 3rd gear strips itself of teeth. Or is that just 306 boxes that do that.... Anyway, car looks Cant wait to see it out on track Nah, normally the MA boxes muller the diff by spinning the crown wheel, or mash the splines on the input shaft, should be fairly solid with a LSD in. Mines just done both  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:51
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ash
Six Addict  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Excellent Kev, do you know what it weighs? Just wondering how lardy my 1.6 SC 306 will be in comparison (when it's finished). 1600ccsvsc is the way forward! |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:51
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
Post #35
No, but I'd love to get it weighed.As Phil said, one of the biggest concerns about the box is it spinning the CW. I believe there've been a number of methods of fitting the CW onto the ATB, and many of them fall apart. Quaife did mine (and did it properly) but I've no idea about the one that's on the car.... ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 05:56
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dr-evil
Senior User  Location: Crewe Registered: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 901 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Someones been a busy bunny - i'm well jealous having started a 205 one9 to t16 2 years ago without my own dirve or garage, and only got as far as condemning the shell - it had been patched together by the guy that wired your donor (he'd practiced his wiring on this one as well) - top job  ________________________________________ Cad Monkey will work for chocolate biscuits....I'm not kidding |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 06:48
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petegti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Solihull & Market Harborough Registered: 09 May 2006 Posts: 12,046 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Seans old Saxo? I work with him, never got to go out in it. boo Looking good anyway. Bout 250 ponies if i remember right? ________________________________________ Cress87 wrote: This place is getting beyond a joke. There's been an enormous influx of bellends signing up recently Team 205 1.9 GTi ™ Team: Hmm™ |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 14:40
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samb
Regular  Location: bournemouth / Coventry Registered: 25 May 2007 Posts: 216 Status: Offline |
Post #38
fantastic thread. Out of interest, do bucket seats from a saxo fit straight into a 106 gti by using the same fitting holes?________________________________________ My 20vt Coop |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 14:53
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Indeed Pete. Come along to one of the club trackdays and you can fix that! And won't have the stigma of having to ride in a Citroen either!And yes, the seat fitting holes are exactly the same on the Saxo/106 (pretty much the same shell) ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 15:03
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marcgti6
Senior User  Location: West Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 883 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Beast of a project and a quality thread. Looks like you've spent a lot of time and effort getting everything spot on and nicely installed.Great work ________________________________________ Want your windows tinting? Then speak to Martin @ Ultimate Tinting. |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 17:22
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Very good read Kev (Admin, this should definitely be in the "Projects" section!   )It's never easy, is it?  still it's that sense of satisfaction once it's all done and you stand back and look at what you've got I'm looking forward to starting mine - as perverse as it sounds, figuring stuff out and solving problems will be part of the fun. (NB - feel free to call me on that when it's 3am I've got 8 bleeding knuckles and it's still in pieces and not working )________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 17:26
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ry
Seasoned Pro  Location: Burton / Derby Registered: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,415 Status: Offline |
Post #42
What a brilliant thread. Lovely car, and some ace power. I can imagine the sound is delicious I wish I had a driveway or somewhere off road to play around and do a project like this. On a side note has anyone ever SC'd an S1 1.3 Rallye before? ________________________________________ Turbocharged Honda Integra Type R DC2 |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 17:32
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Nice wrok How can anyone not be interested?  Hope you get to give it some welly at croft ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 17:38
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Looks spot on, my mate is also doing the same thing ti his 106 rallye, except he's keeping the 8v engine, it was suposed to be going for its mapping session today i think, but has had a few problems with it, so its off road now, untill its all fixed.Top read though ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 17:41
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redrallye
rimjaw  Location: At the limit of adhesion Registered: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 28,753 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Quality Kev! Gonna have to get those throttle bodies now though....________________________________________ Team "310bhp/tonne" Team "Old Skool Kool"  Team "Faster than a standard 6. No really, both of them are" |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 18:55
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mister
Senior User  Location: W.Midlands Registered: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 928 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Well done mate, looks like a lot of hard work but bet its worth it |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 19:33
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Good work Mr. Jones Glad you got there in the end Looking forward to a passenger ride at Croft [if I make it], failing that I guess I'll see on track at Anglesey Should be interesting Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh - be interesting to see a conversion developed by someone else - would like to see how they've done things, and how I would have done them etc ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 19:38
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Let me know when you are planning to move bits on. I may well be interested in a large amount of your old drive trainCould also do a swap deal with my cams if you'd like, they are PT51s which are similar in profile to 708s but work a bit better bellow 6k so should be better for charged engines. (This maybe complete balls, most internet chat on cams and charging is) The box in there is a VTR box isn't it? I'd have thought you'd want to use the box from your Rallye for much shorter gearing. That'll still allow you to hit about 150mph, which is enough in a 106! ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 19:52
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Cheers Dave, I'll let you know. I do have a few people interested in various bits already.I'll probably pass on the cams - but let me think about it. Re the gearbox, I hadn't realised the VTR box was much longer geared (just been discussing the Mr Cheng on the RR). There are things that appeal to me about my existing box, but at the same time the internals of the VTR one have been shot peened so should stand a (slightly) better chance of not dying.... ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 20:57
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
Post #50
khj100 wrote: Cheers Dave, I'll let you know. I do have a few people interested in various bits already. I'll probably pass on the cams - but let me think about it. Re the gearbox, I hadn't realised the VTR box was much longer geared (just been discussing the Mr Cheng on the RR). There are things that appeal to me about my existing box, but at the same time the internals of the VTR one have been shot peened so should stand a (slightly) better chance of not dying.... That's cool, let me know. The VTR box should be tough, but the car did run a standard box before that and it was fine. The MA box is shit, but the main issues seem to be around the bearings on the diff, which is sorted by replacing the diff with the ATB. Mr Cheng is the man to speek to on this, Mankers has rebuilt more gearboxes than I've had take away dinners. ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 21:30
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