Completely!!
If you felt like me, you probably feel like setting fire to it - but try and resist
Looks like it will be an animal in the end
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #151
redrallye wrote: Gutting.... Completely!! If you felt like me, you probably feel like setting fire to it - but try and resist Looks like it will be an animal in the end ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
Posted 18th Apr 2008 at 22:34
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #152
Brilliant thread, nice work there too. Read it before but just sat here and read it all again, hope the engine fix goes ok, sad to hear it.Its so depressing when all that hard work has to be re done i should know, have had to do jobs a few times over myself. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 18th Apr 2008 at 22:35
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crazy leds
Regular Location: durham Registered: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 300 Status: Offline |
Post #153
hang in therejust read the whole thread a credit to you |
Posted 18th Apr 2008 at 23:46
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Yeungster
Seasoned Pro Location: St.Ives Registered: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 8,532 Status: Offline |
Post #154
Really tough luck.Let Sandy know that my car can wait until all his important business has been taken care of! |
Posted 18th Apr 2008 at 23:47
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m3 y rt
extendedlabia.de Location: Carlisle, Cumbria Registered: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 913 Status: Offline |
Post #155
Feel for you mate but hopefully just a case of building all the bits back up into a fresh block, fingers crossed. So what were the results on the corner weighting? Did you manage to get an equal 25% all round on each corner and what was the total weight? 9xxkgs?Russ ________________________________________ Transit Mk7 140ps camper/tow bus!Mini Cooper S R56 Black S1 106 16v Rallye Black 306 Rallye Ex Clio Cup Racer |
Posted 19th Apr 2008 at 04:32
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suffolkpaul
Regular Location: Ipswich Registered: 24 May 2005 Posts: 226 Status: Offline |
Post #156
better to find out about these thigns now than kater on though. every cloud has a silver wotsit. etc.. etc.. ________________________________________ EX Rallye ownerXsara VTS track slag project. |
Posted 19th Apr 2008 at 19:12
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #157
This looks spot on, you'll get there in the end..Interested in your radiator setup? is it a ford one?? ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
Posted 20th Apr 2008 at 00:57
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smighall
Smeg-all Location: b*tching and Whinging Registered: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 10,012 Status: Offline |
Post #158
It's already been fixed and mapped, with good VERY good power too!________________________________________ Seat Leon Cupra FR / 306 GTI6 / Breaking 205 GTI6 / Caterham 7 / Mercedes Sprinter 311CDI LWB Sold: Fisher Fury - Laguna DCI Estate - P1 306 XSI - E30 BMW 325i Baur Convertible - Daihatsu Fourtack - Suzuki GSXR600 - 205 Rallye |
Posted 20th Apr 2008 at 01:20
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #159
nice one, not done it quite to your scale but had engines in and out numerous times to find more problems one after another and get to a stage of thinking "fook this right off" but hang in there. sounds like you've got it sorted already ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 20th Apr 2008 at 01:33
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dixon
Regular Location: Chippenham Registered: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 167 Status: Offline |
Post #160
Thanks all, well there was a bit of a turn up for the books last Friday when I had a call from Sandy to say it was sorted!I'll quote his report on the fix and map... Sandy wrote: Well, what an emotional week! Once I'd removed the engine from the car, it was clear to see that there was a neat 10-12mm hole in the block above the water pump housing. I had fitted the spacer that fits under that head bolt ok, but I must have run the bolt too far down the thread when I was whizzing the bolts up and down to polish the threads before the head went on. Terrible mistake, and god knows I paid for it! The hole was so neat, that Colin was quickly able to machine up a two piece plug that could clamp either side of the hole with a small bolt through it. With the aid of some high temp Epoxy to seal it, the repair was made and I crossed my fingers, prayed a bit (kind of) and gulped hard, hoping that the repair would work. A couple more days to get it back in and working again took us up to yesterday, when I filled it up with coolant and waited for leaks that thankfully, didn't appear! Finally got to run the cams in properly and very pleased with how it was going, left it last night. This morning Colin towed it down to the rollers at SRD for me and After waiting nervously for Mark to finish one of his stock car Pintos, I was able to strap the 306 into the rollers and get started. I started with 90mm trumpets and had the 40mm ones handy to try. The map seemed to flow quite well on the lower speeds sites, remarkably vice free really and no crazy spikes of fuel or ignition were needed to make it work, which is always encouraging and usually a sign of a well matched set up. It took remarkably little advance to make best power which is also something that makes me feel positive, because it invariably means it's working efficiently. As we worked through the full throttle sites and gradually built the revs up, the figures seemed to be very strong from around 3500rpm, I'd been worried before hand that the engine might need a chunk of revs to deliver good power, but it already appeared to be making stonking power (without analysing it at this stage). At 6000rpm, it was struggling to get traction on the rollers, so we had to crank down the straps much harder than normal to get a stable power reading (which increases the losses) and at 7000rpm it peaked at 182bhp at the wheels, which considering the extra loss, equates to about 215-218bhp at the flywheel. Working back through the figures revealed a remarkable peak torque of approximately 173lbft at 6000rpm (97lbft/litre, the best XU specific NA torque I've seen yet) I was expecting around 150-155 lbft realistically, so this came as a real shock. If I hadn't seen so many engines correlate so precisely in these rollers lately, I wouldn't have believed it, but it was there and repeatable! When I spoke to John Read (who's cam profiles and exhaust manifold geometry I used) about it later, he didn't seem overly surprised, he's seen similar results from his XEs and Duratecs before. I was delighted with the torque, but couldn't help wondering if I'd overdone the tract length and was perhaps curbing the peak power slightly, so I swapped the trumpets over to the shorter ones to see. Very low down, the shorter trumpets worked better, but from 4500 upwards it was losing around 20bhp at the wheels on every site and the fuelling had to be corrected by a corresponding amount, so at 6000rpm we decided it was a waste of time, it was potentially going to make more power at the top (possibly), but the loss of mid range would have made the car much harder to drive, in fact the results with the shorter trumpets were more like I was expecting the engine to give before I ran it! After switching back to the longer trumpets and trimming the detail, I was able to take the car out of the rollers and breathe a deep sigh of relief! Followed by the joy of telling Alan all was well (I'd kept quiet since "Black Tuesday"). Here are the results (estimated flywheel figures) in a crude plot, as per my usual: I don't think i'll feel fully confident about the engine until I have proof it's reliable, but making the grunt so early on as it does, will certainly help by keeping the revs down! I look forward to hearing it and seeing it out there most of all. I must thank Alan for his patience, understanding and perseverance, along with my other customers who have been equally brilliant. Most of all though I must thank the Sandy Brown Sympathy Network: Colin Satchell (Still not entirely sure why he puts up with me), Mark Shillaber, Neil Shilling, Pete Willis, John "Readophile" Read, Anne, Atters, Edwins, Jimbo, and all. |
Posted 22nd Apr 2008 at 23:35
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dixon
Regular Location: Chippenham Registered: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 167 Status: Offline |
Post #161
Went to pick it up on Sat after spending the morning at Combe for the action day and got home about 1:30am on Sunday, man that was a long day!Took it out for a little blast up the lane outside Colins and holey friggin moley does it go, its an absolute animal!! And the sound is incredible, never been in anything like it. Can't wait to get on a track with it! Was planning on doing a test day at Llandow tomorrow, buuuut I had a bit of a set back yesterday afternoon. I managed to crush the top of my thumb in the windscreen wiper mechanism while trying to see if it worked clearly in the scuttle pannel. Powerfull little motor on that and Ouch did it hurt... up to the hospital, bandaged up and no driving for a bit ARSE!! Working on it's gonna be a bit more of a struggle too, but I'll get there. There's still 2 weeks. Left to do is: Washer bottle - Mount internally, wire and plumb in. Fire extinguisher - Plumb in and fit extra pull cord Buy and fit fuel filler cap Secure the internal lines - Fuel, brakes, pull cords & wiring Mount ECU Water change Clamp battery down Fit and wire in transponder Buy new switch for elec window and mount on door Buy and fit door cards Make back plate for air filter and attach to trumpets Fit and modify scuttle pannel Bolt check everything Put 2nd subframe bolts back in Roll arches buy and fit non-return fuel breather filter Wire in horn Paint bumper, side strip and wing mirrors Wire in heated screen Cut out door, boot and bonnet skins Finish cutting and tidying dash Paint brackets and re-paint floor Move temperature sender to new position Fit gromets in bulkhead and blank off all holes That about what I can think of, I'm sure there's probably more though :? Sorry, not got many pics. Bit of an early end to the day yesterday. Fuel tank: Zorst: Flight control panel: Custom MooG-Spec induction box/tray: (Cheers Atters!) Dash by night: Oops: I wont post the gory ones though. |
Posted 22nd Apr 2008 at 23:38
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Yeungster
Seasoned Pro Location: St.Ives Registered: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 8,532 Status: Offline |
Post #162
Great work. Extremely promising results. bet you're well excited |
Posted 22nd Apr 2008 at 23:40
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farmer
Seasoned Pro Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #163
Looking like the bees knees now, bet you cant wait to get it out there I would really like to see some detailed interior pics once its finished for some ideas as to what to do with my dash etc. if you dont mind. ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
Posted 23rd Apr 2008 at 04:31
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dixon
Regular Location: Chippenham Registered: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 167 Status: Offline |
Post #164
Really looking forward to driving it! Should hopefully be testing at Combe next Friday, before the race on the Monday.It looks a bit of a mess inside at the mo. Needs some brackets etc finishing off and bits mounted and a bit of a re-paint. As soon as I've done that I'll take some pics. |
Posted 25th Apr 2008 at 20:08
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willygti
Seasoned Pro Location: Exeter Registered: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,024 Status: Offline |
Post #165
wow, such an impressive stance.. hats off mr. dixon.If your going up Llandow i used to do some karting up there Quick little circuit that ________________________________________ Team Ducati 7482003 Subaru Impreza STi |
Posted 25th Apr 2008 at 20:19
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dixon
Regular Location: Chippenham Registered: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 167 Status: Offline |
Post #166
Love the track, have driven it a few times in my old 205.The chicane after the back straight is ace! Don't think I'm gonna have time to get to Llandow next week, first drive should be next Friday at Combe I expect. |
Posted 25th Apr 2008 at 21:35
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #167
Shock, horror, no one's disputing his rolling road figures Excellent build fella, I've been reading this thread since you started it and have been looking forward to reading the results. Brilliant ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 01:41
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keith87
Regular Location: farnham Registered: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #168
Great thread good luck with the racing !! |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 14:51
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reaperman
Regular Location: March Registered: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 279 Status: Offline |
Post #169
Pukka project fella must have read this thread a few times now! An insperation to anyone wishing to do a trackcar project. Best of luck, looks awesome ________________________________________ 97 Sigma Blue GTI-6 |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 15:06
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CUJ
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 22,218 Status: Offline |
Post #170
Fantastic thread Look forward to seeing some video footage of the car on track ________________________________________ 340 horses |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 15:18
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stue306
Scarface Pilot Location: Bet356.com Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 8,929 Status: Offline |
Post #171
dont forget your gti6.com stickers are you gonna be racing at silverstone?? if you are let me know the date and ill pop along for some support________________________________________ R.I.P pete,see you at the crossroadsso i dont forget [url =copyandpastelink]type a clicky title[/url] p2 gti-6, scooby wagon'restoration project' |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 16:21
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306brent
Regular Location: Newbury Registered: 03 Sep 2005 Posts: 418 Status: Offline |
Post #172
Looks like a great build!! great work too, but is it just me or do you now have no speedo |
Posted 26th Apr 2008 at 18:34
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ash
Six Addict Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #173
Looks good, do you know the weight yet?900kg+-? |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 at 22:54
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farmer
Seasoned Pro Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #174
stue306 wrote: dont forget your gti6.com stickers are you gonna be racing at silverstone?? if you are let me know the date and ill pop along for some support I wouldn't have thought he will be racing at Silverstone Stue, im sure he is in a Castle Combe cup thingy. ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
Posted 1st May 2008 at 02:22
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smighall
Smeg-all Location: b*tching and Whinging Registered: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 10,012 Status: Offline |
Post #175
Yeah this is for the combe championship ________________________________________ Seat Leon Cupra FR / 306 GTI6 / Breaking 205 GTI6 / Caterham 7 / Mercedes Sprinter 311CDI LWB Sold: Fisher Fury - Laguna DCI Estate - P1 306 XSI - E30 BMW 325i Baur Convertible - Daihatsu Fourtack - Suzuki GSXR600 - 205 Rallye |
Posted 1st May 2008 at 05:44
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