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Hi Has anyone got the gear ratio's for the xsara vts box inc final drive ????????????
Ta
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 bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Has anyone got the gear ratio's for the xsara vts box inc final drive ???????????? Ta |
 Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 03:38
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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im sure they are the same as an mi16/s16 box? |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 03:47
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
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Same as the Xsi etc iirc?________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 04:22
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
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Here you go Clicky I have no idea if this is correct, i just Googled it!!  ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 04:31
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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Xsara VTS...1ST..2.92,,,,,2nd..1.86,,,,,3rd..1.28,,,,,4th ..0.95,,,,5th..0.74,,,,,FD..4.43.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 04:36
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
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our 205 cti does1st 40 2nd 60 3rd 90 4th 120 5th ? |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 04:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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306 gti6,,,1st..2.92,,,2nd..1.87,,,3rd..1.41,,,4th..1.15,,,5th..0.95 ,,6th..0.80,,,FD..4.05________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Apr 2007 at 04:39
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kampungboy
Newbie  Location: Ipoh Registered: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Status: Offline |
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how about zx16v gear ratio? tq |
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Posted 19th Aug 2009 at 08:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #9
same as xsara VTS________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Aug 2009 at 13:33
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atterz
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Sorry to drag up an old thread. What is a xsara gearbox like to live with in a 306? Im thinking of going for one as my 6 box is nakkered!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 23:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #11
work just fine, slightly different gearing but most of all you can turn right!  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 23:41
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I had a feeling you would reply, as you mentioned above its the same as zx16v isnt it? What speeds are you doing in 1st,2nd and so forth? And how is 5th for an "economy" gear?________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 23:44
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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atterz wrote: Sorry to drag up an old thread. What is a xsara gearbox like to live with in a 306? Im thinking of going for one as my 6 box is nakkered! Just changed mine from a gti6 box to a xasra vts it pulls harder in 1/2/3 and 4th is longer not much difference in 5th which is slightly shorter than the gti6 6th but not enough for you to notice i have not, but i havnt been on the motorway with it yet i know you asked how its like to live with in a 306 but i would recommend it over the gti6 box.It also drops down more down the rev counter than the gti6 box which kept you higher up the rev range between gear changes. As stupid has it sounds my car actually feels lighter and better balanced than it was with the gti6 box and im loving the fact of having full lock both ways. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 24th May 2012 at 23:56
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
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Cheers! Obviously i dont have a 7400RPM rev limit though and dont want to ruin the economy, so if you could report back on what revs it is at 70mph that would be awesome! Dont want it higher than 3000RPM really!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 00:00
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
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Gearbox:- 306 GTi-6 Late FDTyre:- 195/55 x 15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Top Gear gives 21.008 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 152.311 MPH at 7250 RPM Engine speeds in top gear:- 30 MPH = 1428 RPM 40 MPH = 1904 RPM 50 MPH = 2380 RPM 60 MPH = 2856 RPM 70 MPH = 3332 RPM 80 MPH = 3808 RPM 90 MPH = 4284 RPM 100 MPH = 4760 RPM Top Speed in 1 gear = 41.426 MPH And changes into 2 gear at 4636 RPM dropping 2614 RPM Top Speed in 2 gear = 64.787 MPH And changes into 3 gear at 5485 RPM dropping 1765 RPM Top Speed in 3 gear = 85.634 MPH And changes into 4 gear at 5886 RPM dropping 1364 RPM Top Speed in 4 gear = 105.477 MPH And changes into 5 gear at 6006 RPM dropping 1244 RPM Top Speed in 5 gear = 127.326 MPH And changes into 6 gear at 6061 RPM dropping 1189 RPM Top Speed in 6 gear = 152.311 MPH Gearbox:- Xsara VTS Tyre:- 195/55 x 15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Top Gear gives 20.515 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 148.732 MPH at 7250 RPM Engine speeds in top gear:- 30 MPH = 1462 RPM 40 MPH = 1950 RPM 50 MPH = 2437 RPM 60 MPH = 2925 RPM 70 MPH = 3412 RPM 80 MPH = 3900 RPM 90 MPH = 4387 RPM 100 MPH = 4875 RPM Top Speed in 1 gear = 37.908 MPH And changes into 2 gear at 4636 RPM dropping 2614 RPM Top Speed in 2 gear = 59.286 MPH And changes into 3 gear at 4965 RPM dropping 2285 RPM Top Speed in 3 gear = 86.566 MPH And changes into 4 gear at 5387 RPM dropping 1863 RPM Top Speed in 4 gear = 116.514 MPH And changes into 5 gear at 5680 RPM dropping 1570 RPM Top Speed in 5 gear = 148.732 MPH Hmm, will that extra 100 RPM at 70 make that much difference? ________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 00:07
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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atterz wrote: Ill let you know what i get in 70 mph but i can tell you it wont be 3000 revs it will be higher theres a graph that tells you all the gear ratios pm me your email address and ill send you it.Its not exactly accurate a few 100 revs out here and there but its a very usefull tool Cheers! Obviously i dont have a 7400RPM rev limit though and dont want to ruin the economy, so if you could report back on what revs it is at 70mph that would be awesome! Dont want it higher than 3000RPM really! ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 00:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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nope, that slight difference in 5th total ratio wont do much difference, I still got decent economy though mine was quite light for a road car, would ave been around 1100.my engine would buzz the limiter in 5th, where you'll find not many will in 6th  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 08:55
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atterz
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Mine should be around 1100 so about the same then  Happy days, ill be on the look out for a decent xsara box then. Cheers!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 25th May 2012 at 19:26
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
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I'd personally stick with the 6 speed, you might get slightly better acceleration with the 5 speed but through 3rd 4th and 5th the 6 speed is much better Imo.You can see from your post above that those 3 gears on a 5 speed all drop the revs back a lot more than the 6 speed, couple this with going up a hill or something and there is a big difference in how they pull. I used to hate 4th gear in my Vts as it would take forever to pull through it. Also worth considering gear selection for corners as the 6 speed gives you better option's. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 26th May 2012 at 15:16
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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I wish I could understand all this ratio talk ________________________________________  |
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Posted 26th May 2012 at 15:25
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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OK so this is confusing the hell out of me....I'm looking at a new box for my car and I can't get the info I need from the company as the main man is away. I have the top speeds at 7500 rpm and the final drive ratios but not the gear ratios. How would I work these out using the information I do have 1st 39mph 2nd 62mph 3rd 81mph 4th 99mph 5th 120mph FD 4.44 Next question is what speed would I get if using a 3.6 FD from a 1.9gti box (if that's what they have fitted) Appreciate the answers but how you got to those answers would be helpfully for me to work out how gear ratios, final drives and rpm all come together to work out top speeds and rpm drop in each gear |
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Posted 6th Sep 2016 at 18:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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what tyre sixe?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2016 at 18:17
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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Well I'm using 18 with 225 40 so over all 63.5cm |
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Posted 6th Sep 2016 at 18:27
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #24
However I'm guessing you need the tyre size that they have given which is 195 50 15 |
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Posted 6th Sep 2016 at 18:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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yeah, what company is it?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Sep 2016 at 18:27
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