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Day666

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Well I started my car yesterday to move it & left it ticking over for a while as its not been started for a while ...
I'm looking under the bonnet as I can smell petrol & then I've got 2-3ft flames coming out of my drivers side under car by side of subframe ...
Turn ignition off then kill switch & grab a 2litre foam Fire Extinguisher & put it out ....
Was on fire for 5-10 secs ?
It appears my Fuel lines been rubbed & hit & it just gave up & sprayed Petrol towards my hot Manifold & the rest is history Crazy
No damage apart from all three plastic fuel lines burnt inc one that goes to the drivers side inner wing Breather canister ...

I think it's time for a under boot swirl pot & Teflon / Braided fuel lines through out ...going to visit Torques tomorrow hopefully ...
I S-it myself LOL

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Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 19:28
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f**k. Close call then.

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Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 19:29
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aaron6 wrote:
f**k. Close call then.


I recon another 10seconds & it would of been to late ....I needed to use another Faom 2litre after the first one ...they only last seconds ...thank god I had two to hand ...

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Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 19:34
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8mm copper or aluminium will be cheaper for full length under car Wink
Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 20:11
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I had a close call with mine when i first got the track car back on the road, the fuel rail mounting bolts vibrated out whilst driving, then 'pop' as the rail lifted off the injectors and sprayed petrol everywhere.
Luckily it didn't ignight or i'd have been pretty screwed!
The next day i went out and bought myself an extinguisher that now lives in the car Laugh

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Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 20:31
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This is why I have a plumbed in system

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 08:46
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Day666

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cully wrote:
8mm copper or aluminium will be cheaper for full length under car Wink


I'm going Teflon Cully ..but thank you m8
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 09:00
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Day666

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I had a close call with mine when i first got the track car back on the road, the fuel rail mounting bolts vibrated out whilst driving, then 'pop' as the rail lifted off the injectors and sprayed petrol everywhere.
Luckily it didn't ignight or i'd have been pretty screwed!
The next day i went out and bought myself an extinguisher that now lives in the car Laugh


Your a very lucky bloke ....it's opened my eyes massively !!!!
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 09:01
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well Saved! Big grin

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 09:03
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cully wrote:
8mm copper or aluminium will be cheaper for full length under car Wink


I was told you couldn't use copper for fuel lines when I did my fuel lines on my mini. Or was this lies ?

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 10:45
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The copper will leach into the fuel, especially with modern ethanol content.

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 12:34
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Cjwatson27 wrote:
cully wrote:
8mm copper or aluminium will be cheaper for full length under car Wink


I was told you couldn't use copper for fuel lines when I did my fuel lines on my mini. Or was this lies ?



Possibly just because you had a mini

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 12:38
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The copper will leach into the fuel, especially with modern ethanol content.


You are just full of interesting stuff Phillip Thumbs up
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 12:40
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well Saved! Big grin


David far too close m8 ....LOL
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 12:40
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phillipm wrote:
The copper will leach into the fuel, especially with modern ethanol content.


You are just full of interesting stuff Phillip Thumbs up


That's not what most people call it LOL

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 12:49
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how long will that take to have any effect? where can I get 8mm steel lines?

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 13:19
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Rang Torques & they won't let me collect ?....I'm in bloody Abergavenny Now for 2hrs working ....how stupid ! Thumbs down
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 13:32
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welshpug! wrote:
how long will that take to have any effect? where can I get 8mm steel lines?


What size is the stuff you get from Peugeot for 205's etc? must be around 8mm, comes in lengths of about 4m.

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 13:26
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Rang Torques & they won't let me collect ?....I'm in bloody Abergavenny Now for 2hrs working ....how stupid ! Thumbs down


LOL

yeah they haven't got a shop, its just an industrial unit but might not be anyone in.

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 13:53
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welshpug! wrote:
how long will that take to have any effect? where can I get 8mm steel lines?


IIRC - might be out a bit here, it's a while since I read the studies - it was about 10-15 years to eat through enough copper wall thickess (just over a mm or so) to make the pipe burst at injection pressures with e10.
However, that's accelerated where you've bent the pipe and a)made it thinner and b ) introduced stress microcracking from forming it.
I'm sure I saw somewhere selling coated copper for fuel lines though, might be one of the hotrod sites as I was looking for stainless steel brake piping at the time.

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 14:59
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welshpug! wrote:
Day666 wrote:
Rang Torques & they won't let me collect ?....I'm in bloody Abergavenny Now for 2hrs working ....how stupid ! Thumbs down


LOL

yeah they haven't got a shop, its just an industrial unit but might not be anyone in.


The bloke never answers his phone ?
Only talks via email & Ebay ....sod him I'm off to Merlin Mororsport don't want to deal like that thank you Torques
Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 15:21
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fine if you want to waste cash, youll have them tomorrow if you order them.

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Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 16:11
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Give Think Automotive a call, Good team there and thats where all my bits come from, if you speak to Matt (Director) tell him I sent you

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I've just plumbed in a full dry sump system and redone all my fuel hoses in BMRS Pro Gold hose. The best prices by far were with Rally Design, they were nearly 50% cheaper than Think Auto, although I've always had good service from Think but they do seem to be pricey.

Unfortunately Rally Designs prices made Torques stuff look expensive for what is a cheaper product, but aside from that I could not fault Torques, brilliant service and very helpful, even let me return a load of stuff past the returns period so I still get a lot of stuff from them, and fast delivery too, almost everything arrives next day. Only reason I didn't use them in the end was there PTFE hose isn't as bendy as I needed, so I had to move onto the BMRS stuff which is convoluted and very bendy!

Phil, sure the coated copper was the correct stuff? Most copper is coated externally which I can't see would help with fuel, unless someones selling internally coated copper?! I'd use powder coated aluminium tube, often called hard tube, or hardline or something, its bendable and also resistant to all fuels.

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Yeah, internal coated, can't remember what it was called but it was under a trade/brand name. Will have a look for it.

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Posted 1st Mar 2016 at 02:08
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