Post #76
I was just saying I have the rods and Pistons if I had a crank I'd use it but I don't 
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 Rallyewoo2
Newbie  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 20:27
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #77
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: is yours high boost mate?If you want to go out in a supercharged car I'm more than happy to pop down? ________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 20:28
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #78
Super highboost yep________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 20:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #79
thing is the British Touring cars were a long way off top spec for a Peugeot engine at the time, regulations with the classes they ran in were part of that, as the 306's were not in the full works specifications, nor were the 405's.the french supertourers were something else and peugeot sport France would not sell them the engines hence using longman engines. I only mention Sandy's name initially as its a prominent one on a few pug/citroen forums, and there doesn't seem to be many out there still pushing the TU XU and EW stuff, though there are plenty other guys building very good French motors, SRD have built a few though their main thing is the old pinto's and Zetecs, though not exclusively, JRE formerly built a lot of large capacity Ford and Vauxhall Rally engines as well as 1400's. most of the names I've seen build a good pug engine are predominantly ford and GM builders, not many of the self titled pug engine specialists inspire confidence, whether rightly or not I couldn't comment personally. most of the btcc 306 stuff is nigh on 15 years old by now. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 20:35
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #80
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: wow I'd love to go for a blast in a super high boost!! Super highboost yep Welshy I see your point there as has been said sandy has a list aslong as the earth lol! I do trust Brett's work and have seen many well built high powered pug engines! As well as his own 298bhp n/a cosworth engine in his mk2 escort!! I'm swaying towards the low boost tho now if I'm honest I can't justify the high boost price or the price of a properly built N/a for the money vs power it doesn't quite add up! ________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 20:50
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #81
Rallyewoo2 wrote: superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: wow I'd love to go for a blast in a super high boost!! Super highboost yep Welshy I see your point there as has been said sandy has a list aslong as the earth lol! I do trust Brett's work and have seen many well built high powered pug engines! As well as his own 298bhp n/a cosworth engine in his mk2 escort!! I'm swaying towards the low boost tho now if I'm honest I can't justify the high boost price or the price of a properly built N/a for the money vs power it doesn't quite add up! Like I said in post 10, low boost is a good starting point with 250bhp  Come at me with a sensible offer & my fitting kit is available   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 21:20
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #82
Iam 100% going low boost just going to try source all the parts and get the best prices I can mate without rushing into it________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 21:28
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #83
Cheapest way to a reliable 300bhp is a Saab 2.3t HOT conversion. Jus sayin________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 21:51
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #84
Naaaa I'll give that a miss :/________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 21:53
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #85
Hi kev iv got a super high boost that I can take you out in as we are in the same town if you wanna meet up, wouldn't mind checking out your suspension set up to as that's the missing link for my car..... |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 22:14
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #86
The rallye is not on the road at the moment ________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 22:40
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #87
Any pics of the beast? From your other thread you mentioned an adjustable rear arb any pics of how it's adjustable for pre load? Iv got to get my suspension set up and have never seen or heard about an adjustable arb! If you have some spare time I would love to come and have a look to get my head round it |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 22:50
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #88
Ollie you rascal that was my plan too  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 22:55
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Will try sort something out I work in the oil refinery so a lot of time spent on rigs at sea etc ________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 23:07
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Pics would be good or when your available to meet up I'll come have a look and take you out in my car... I can imagine that the arb end plates are connected to some sort of adjustable linkage so then you can add pre lead to the bar? |
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Posted 23rd Jun 2015 at 23:12
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #91
Correct that is all it is looks like a adjustable drop link________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 24th Jun 2015 at 07:24
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #92
Am I missing something here? How can you pre load an ARB? It would only work when cornering in one direction surely?! The only way of altering an ARB rate is to change the thickness of the bar or alter the leverage on the bar via some sort of arm. I get the feeling you're talking about the drop link that the BTCC cars ran, I'm sorry to dissapoint you but that isn't an 'adjustable' bar, its to ensure there isn't any pre load on the bar if the ride height is altered slightly to set the cars balance up. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 25th Jun 2015 at 17:26
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #93
OHHH s**t I was told its adjustable I'm now gutted________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 25th Jun 2015 at 21:59
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #94
Rallyewoo2 wrote: OHHH s**t I was told its adjustable I'm now gutted Oops  Hope these don't make you feel any worse!!! http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=331500974414&globalID=EBAY-GB ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 25th Jun 2015 at 22:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #95
 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2015 at 22:37
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #96
Pete, when I mentioned 'adjustable arb' in the other thread I meant it being adjustable for preload. I know some folk preload the arbs when they corner weight these cars, I personally wouldn't as you're affecting other things as well as the corner weights obviously! It's easy to get any preload out of the arb anyway using the vernier effect on the arb/end plates. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 26th Jun 2015 at 08:44
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #97
I'm not sure which thread the other thread is! I just read the above and thought WTF?! The only possible reason I can think for preloading an ARB is for Oval racing, otherwise you would effectively have a strong ARB for turning one direction, and a very weak ARB for turning the other direction, and when you're not turning you'd effectively have a stiffer spring on one side of the car? I might be missing something here so correct me if I'm mistaken?! I always figured the drop link on the BTCC cars was there so that if they made changes to the balance of the car in a quick stop during testing etc then they could line up the ARB end plates to the swing arm just by increasing/decreasing the length of the drop link slightly? ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 26th Jun 2015 at 14:37
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,214 Status: Offline |
Post #98
On another Note ....back to where we started  If your going Charged ....just buy MIDLIFES setup If not be very very careful !!!!! |
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Posted 26th Jun 2015 at 14:49
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #99
pete_rallye wrote: I'm not sure which thread the other thread is! I just read the above and thought WTF?! The only possible reason I can think for preloading an ARB is for Oval racing, otherwise you would effectively have a strong ARB for turning one direction, and a very weak ARB for turning the other direction, and when you're not turning you'd effectively have a stiffer spring on one side of the car? I might be missing something here so correct me if I'm mistaken?! I always figured the drop link on the BTCC cars was there so that if they made changes to the balance of the car in a quick stop during testing etc then they could line up the ARB end plates to the swing arm just by increasing/decreasing the length of the drop link slightly? You've got it Pete, Preloading the bar is not good but as I say I've heard a couple of people now say they do it when corner weighting! Corner weighting should be done with the arbs disabled! I'm sure as you say the btcc cars had it to save faffing spinning the bar and trying the end plates until it lined up. You could maybe even do it with the wheels on to save jacking etc. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 26th Jun 2015 at 15:47
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Rallyewoo2
Newbie Location: Portsmouth Registered: 21 Jun 2015 Posts: 28 Status: Offline |
Post #100
midlife wrote: nope mine is real 110%Rallyewoo2 wrote: OHHH s**t I was told its adjustable I'm now gutted Oops Hope these don't make you feel any worse!!! http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=331500974414&globalID=EBAY-GB ________________________________________ Kev |
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Posted 26th Jun 2015 at 18:47
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