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Author Subject: Rear Negative Camber Kit Peugeot 306
Slavesta

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Producing of Rear Negative Camber Kit for Peugeot 306 from Ukraine!
Our racing team now is producing racing parts for Peugeot 306/205, Saxo/106 ! ! !
http://vdmotorsport.com

Bolt on kit with negative plates (from 0,5 to 2,5 degrees) is 280 euro. Shipping to UK and EU 30 euro.
This kit is made from Steel 41Cr4.
Kit includes 2 studs, 2 negative paltes, 2 rear shims, 2 rear bolts, 8 front bolts.
This kit is using standart brake bracket.

Please mail me denisovsu84@gmail.com









Posted 18th May 2015 at 17:57
adam b

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Welcome!
Very interesting...

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Posted 18th May 2015 at 18:31
orta

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We need to pay to camber our rear beam now? Thought about 100k or 15 years would camber it for us

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Posted 18th May 2015 at 19:43
Slavesta

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Post #4
This kit is for race use. Also toe can be changed with this kit.
Posted 18th May 2015 at 19:57
midlife

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Welcome to the clubWave

Out of interest, when Bridgecraft Engineering do this mod, they remachine the the bore of the hole the stub goes into to match the angle of the remachined front face & provide an oversize stub pin to fit so the pin locates correctly on the inside of the arm..
How do you get around this without losing strength & how much does your mod increase the rear track?
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Posted 18th May 2015 at 20:16
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By the looks of it it won't widen the track as the new plates are instead of the original caliper mounting brackets and not an addition
Posted 18th May 2015 at 20:36
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pugheaven wrote:
By the looks of it it won't widen the track as the new plates are instead of the original caliper mounting brackets and not an addition


nope, read the description, it all bolts down under the caliper bracket.

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Posted 18th May 2015 at 20:40
Slavesta

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This kit wides the track for 18 mm per side.
Posted 18th May 2015 at 20:51
pugheaven

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welshpug! wrote:
pugheaven wrote:
By the looks of it it won't widen the track as the new plates are instead of the original caliper mounting brackets and not an addition


nope, read the description, it all bolts down under the caliper bracket.



My bad should have read the post rather than be lazy and just look at the pics
Posted 18th May 2015 at 21:04
midlife

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Slavesta wrote:
This kit wides the track for 18 mm per side.


Hmm, this would enable the use of cheaper ford fit wheels as no spacer would be required.
Not sure about 4 bolts being strong enough to withstand the stresses involved though..

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 14:50
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all 207, clio and ds3 uses this system with only 4 bolts,

couple of cars in the netherlands have this system also and work fine
Posted 19th May 2015 at 15:03
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midlife wrote:
Slavesta wrote:
This kit wides the track for 18 mm per side.


Hmm, this would enable the use of cheaper ford fit wheels as no spacer would be required.
Not sure about 4 bolts being strong enough to withstand the stresses involved though..

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This might be me being stupid but you will still need wheel spacers as the 18mm spacers push the bearing outboard so the hub to wheel distance would be the same as before Dunno
Posted 19th May 2015 at 15:08
demondriverdan

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Very interested in this. Have you got any photos of the kit fitted to an actual axle?

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 16:32
allanallen

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Clios use 3x m10 bolts and 1x m8 bolt to hold the stub axles on rather than 4x m8s. As the face the bolts seat on isn't at 90 degrees to the threaded holes they use countersunk bolts to allow for better positive seating. I believe 207s use m10 bolts too, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you take into account what the original arm geo is, what car it's for and the ride height when supplying the shims?

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 16:37
Twangy

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midlife wrote:
Slavesta wrote:
This kit wides the track for 18 mm per side.


Hmm, this would enable the use of cheaper ford fit wheels as no spacer would be required.
Not sure about 4 bolts being strong enough to withstand the stresses involved though..

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no spacer on back ,but Peugeot still larger spigot than ford ,still spacers required for front ,this is basically what was the old group N cheat on rear of cosworths ,use to make up thin steal shims for camber and toe in does

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 16:59
Slavesta

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In this kit we use 4 - M8 bolts and one big and strong in rear side of stud (M16).

Posted 21st May 2015 at 22:27
allanallen

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I take it you use a conical washer and counter sunk bolt in the back?

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 20:42
Slavesta

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Post #18
We use angled shim in the rear. And strong bolt.
Posted 19th May 2015 at 20:56
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Seems complicated, you must have to make be-spoke shims and washers for every set up?! We've made clio style hubs in the past (albeit mounted with just 4x m10 bolts) but used the double shim arrangement like the clios use, much simpler.

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Posted 19th May 2015 at 21:27
Slavesta

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Post #20
Doble shims is available too
For set of plates we produce set of rear angled shims.
Posted 19th May 2015 at 21:31
Slavesta

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Post #21
Kit installation guide.

Posted 20th May 2015 at 21:17
pinkfloyd

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With the extra 18mm per side track the look with your original wheels should be good, don't forget that when you add -camber the top of the wheel will disappear a bit under the arch so this kit is kind of self correcting. It'll stop those of us that run 7" rims from rubbing on the inner arch too!

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 14:51
Slavesta

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pinkfloyd wrote:
With the extra 18mm per side track the look with your original wheels should be good, don't forget that when you add -camber the top of the wheel will disappear a bit under the arch so this kit is kind of self correcting. It'll stop those of us that run 7" rims from rubbing on the inner arch too!


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Posted 3rd Jun 2015 at 08:50
allanallen

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Unfortunately widening the rear track has a negative effect on handling, like fitting a 309 beam on a 205, it ruins turn in and increase understeer.

I'm still unsure how you're taking ride height into consideration when supplying these? Do you supply a big box of shims with each set?

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Posted 3rd Jun 2015 at 09:31
Slavesta

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Post #25
In stock you have negative camber about 1 degree on 306 arms, so I only add additional camber.
I supply only one pair of negative plates for one kit, but if you need more I can produce it for extra cost.
About widening the track, you can use Ford style wheels with ET 35.
Posted 3rd Jun 2015 at 11:53

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