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fatlapit

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with standard toe please this beams doing my tits in its s**t

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Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 21:04
fatlapit

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Hey dude, as requested:

Rear Toe Left 0.56'
Rear Camber Left -2.57'

Rear Toe Right 0.54'
Rear Camber Right -2.53'

We work on "minutes" so 0.60' = 1.00' so to speak.

this is wat i got atm idealy id like the same camber but standard toe

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Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 21:09
allanallen

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So you want more toe?

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Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 23:10
fatlapit

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yes i need it more stable

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 06:31
demondriverdan

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Are you running about 1 degree toe in or out with your current arms?

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:21
fatlapit

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see above

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:34
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My beam has bang on 0 toe and I find it totally unstable, it's like Russian roulette, it's fun doing 30 mph and lifting off on a roundabout and putting foot back down before it goes totally backwards, but go over 60mph and it feels chuffing deadly

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:50
demondriverdan

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fatlapit wrote:
see above


I can see it says you're running 0.56', I'm not sure if that's toe in or out?

buzzbrightyear wrote:
My beam has bang on 0 toe and I find it totally unstable, it's like Russian roulette, it's fun doing 30 mph and lifting off on a roundabout and putting foot back down before it goes totally backwards, but go over 60mph and it feels chuffing deadly


I'm planning on running 0 toe on the race car, little apprehensive as I've read similar reports that it's quite unstable. That said I'm running wide tyres, will run 2.5 deg of camber as well so hopefully it'll be ok.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 10:18
welshpug!

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weird that, my ZX has zero toe as standard, never felt unstable at all, its on 23mm bars too.

stock arb however, I'm not a fan of stupid size ARB's, takes away the compliance across the car down the lanes, I found with a hybrid it would snap around.

I would try a stock arb.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 10:25
fatlapit

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its horrible 100+ or in the wet

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:42
allanallen

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I can obviously machine you some, you'll struggle to find what you're after second hand as we certainly haven't machined any.

How low is it out of curiosity?

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:49
fatlapit

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about 3" from bump stop

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:50
welshpug!

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had 150 out of the zx, felt planted.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:19
fatlapit

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good

oh on 17s

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:27
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welshpug! wrote:
had 150 out of the zx, felt planted.


No idea why a 306 feels totally unstable with 0 toe arms on but it does, ive been in a zx years ago and it definatly doesn't feel like a 306 with 0 toe, I'm interested to know why but trust me if a zx felt that way they would never of let them leave the factory like that, maybe that's why the 306 has toe in, because again if they put 0 toe on a 306 it would never of been allowed to leave the factory.
It's fun in a way but once you get your speed up the fun goes, it's like Russian roulette, there's no way you could let off the accelerator mid bend, ive had spme good fun on roundabouts with it that way but it's no fun at speed, you just daren't do it.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:43
welshpug!

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I doubt the toe is the problem.

zx is about 25 mm shorter wheelbase and 40 mm narrower at the front, otherwise identical chassis.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:52
buzzbrightyear

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It's gotta be the toe, seems stramge but what else could it be, and why did they leave the factory having toe in on the 306 instead of having 0 like the zx?

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:59
welshpug!

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because peugeot.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 16:09
fatlapit

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its the toe a standard beam is far better.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 16:36
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I agree it's the toe, it gives massive loos

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 17:17
BigTallPaul

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Post #21
Are you running rubber or solid mounts ?

Mine felt nervous with old rubber mounts but feels planted with solid mounts and standard rear toe.

Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:10
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Solid, with a new refurbed beam and every single wearing part new from peugeot, new shocks and springs eibach and bilsteins.
It's definatly having 0 toe on the rear beam that makes it that way.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:32
fatlapit

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solid mate

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:32
welshpug!

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fresh standard o.e.m mounts here.

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Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:36
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welshpug! wrote:
fresh standard o.e.m mounts here.

But it's on a zx he's got a gti6
That's about as useful as me comparing a St tdci to a d turbo

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