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Author | Subject: cambered trailing arms |
fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #1
with standard toe please this beams doing my tits in its s**t________________________________________ |
Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 21:04
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Hey dude, as requested:Rear Toe Left 0.56' Rear Camber Left -2.57' Rear Toe Right 0.54' Rear Camber Right -2.53' We work on "minutes" so 0.60' = 1.00' so to speak. this is wat i got atm idealy id like the same camber but standard toe ________________________________________ |
Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 21:09
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #3
So you want more toe? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 18th Jan 2015 at 23:10
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #4
yes i need it more stable________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 06:31
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Are you running about 1 degree toe in or out with your current arms?________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:21
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #6
see above________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:34
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #7
My beam has bang on 0 toe and I find it totally unstable, it's like Russian roulette, it's fun doing 30 mph and lifting off on a roundabout and putting foot back down before it goes totally backwards, but go over 60mph and it feels chuffing deadly________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 09:50
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #8
fatlapit wrote: see above I can see it says you're running 0.56', I'm not sure if that's toe in or out? buzzbrightyear wrote: My beam has bang on 0 toe and I find it totally unstable, it's like Russian roulette, it's fun doing 30 mph and lifting off on a roundabout and putting foot back down before it goes totally backwards, but go over 60mph and it feels chuffing deadly I'm planning on running 0 toe on the race car, little apprehensive as I've read similar reports that it's quite unstable. That said I'm running wide tyres, will run 2.5 deg of camber as well so hopefully it'll be ok. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 10:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #9
weird that, my ZX has zero toe as standard, never felt unstable at all, its on 23mm bars too.stock arb however, I'm not a fan of stupid size ARB's, takes away the compliance across the car down the lanes, I found with a hybrid it would snap around. I would try a stock arb. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 10:25
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #10
its horrible 100+ or in the wet________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:42
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I can obviously machine you some, you'll struggle to find what you're after second hand as we certainly haven't machined any. How low is it out of curiosity? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:49
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #12
about 3" from bump stop________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 14:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #13
had 150 out of the zx, felt planted.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:19
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #14
goodoh on 17s ________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:27
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #15
welshpug! wrote: had 150 out of the zx, felt planted. No idea why a 306 feels totally unstable with 0 toe arms on but it does, ive been in a zx years ago and it definatly doesn't feel like a 306 with 0 toe, I'm interested to know why but trust me if a zx felt that way they would never of let them leave the factory like that, maybe that's why the 306 has toe in, because again if they put 0 toe on a 306 it would never of been allowed to leave the factory. It's fun in a way but once you get your speed up the fun goes, it's like Russian roulette, there's no way you could let off the accelerator mid bend, ive had spme good fun on roundabouts with it that way but it's no fun at speed, you just daren't do it. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I doubt the toe is the problem.zx is about 25 mm shorter wheelbase and 40 mm narrower at the front, otherwise identical chassis. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:52
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #17
It's gotta be the toe, seems stramge but what else could it be, and why did they leave the factory having toe in on the 306 instead of having 0 like the zx?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 15:59
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #18
because peugeot.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 16:09
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #19
its the toe a standard beam is far better. ________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 16:36
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I agree it's the toe, it gives massive loos________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 17:17
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BigTallPaul
Junior User Location: Leicester Registered: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Are you running rubber or solid mounts ? Mine felt nervous with old rubber mounts but feels planted with solid mounts and standard rear toe. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:10
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Solid, with a new refurbed beam and every single wearing part new from peugeot, new shocks and springs eibach and bilsteins.It's definatly having 0 toe on the rear beam that makes it that way. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:32
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #23
solid mate________________________________________ |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #24
fresh standard o.e.m mounts here.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 18:36
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #25
welshpug! wrote: fresh standard o.e.m mounts here. But it's on a zx he's got a gti6 That's about as useful as me comparing a St tdci to a d turbo ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 19th Jan 2015 at 19:02
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