Just been giving a bit of thought to the future of the Rallye and was just wondering what the feeling is regarding desirability of modded Rallyes. Obviously its horses for courses but would like the experts view....

Typically, what would be more desirable in the marketplace?....

Fast road car with bodies and decent suspension but full interior etc

OR

Stripped out track car with above mods plus cage,polycarb windows, some carbon F/G panels etc...



TT

Just a personal thing but as soon as you cage a car it seriously limits it's appeal.

Standard looking car with mods you can't see would be my preference

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Almost standard 1999 Bianca Rallye
Hilux InvincibleX daily

306 No.13

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It's all academic for me as I intend to keep it long term. Unless someone wants to take it px against their 106 Rallye s2 in indigo with the tu 16ver in it. So I'll do what I want...

As for protecting values its been said above but a totally restored, but standard, will eventually be worth the most.
Looking standard but lightly modified will be the second most valued and the fully stripped cars the least. Prices are so low at the moment tho (for 6s anyway) that there isn't much price difference between fully stripped and fully standard ones..

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Thanks folks....

Im not necessarily considering going spare on a full-out build, just interested to hear views on the subject. I think that if I DID decide to take the Rallye a bit furthercthen I'd most likely go down the first option i.e. upgraded engine/suspension etc with stock interior.


TT

Only thing I think you can get away with changing are the wheels. Which is all I'm changing and the rest of the looks will stay oem+

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I'm probably too much of a newbie to know much about how the '6 is going to fare long-term (wonder how many people knew what a gti6 was in the 90s, compared to e.g. a Cosworth Sierra?) but from what I've seen with my succession of classics and 'neo classics' (the cars you buy at wreck value, only for them to rapidly appreciate - that's a nice feeling ) the closer they are to standard, the better. Maybe a bit of extra painting and polishing, and maybe some Powerflex bushes, but generally original is good, modified is bad.

The only exception to this is if a car has a major fault as standard (e.g. the Triumph Stag) - almost nobody but a museum would want an unmodified one! But even then the modifications have to keep as much of the original car / engine as possible.

However, there is no guarantee anything from the 90's onwards (except for supercars) will actually reach 'classic' status. There's a general fear of ageing automotive electronics, and the average age of classic car enthusiasts is slowly growing because under-20's aren't so interested in cars any more. And since classic enthusiasts generally dislike the 'tacky Euroboxes' of their day, there's bound to be less interest in these 'neo classics' as they grow older because cars generally become classics through nostalgia, not dislike (except for the Austin Allegro!).

So in short, don't worry about the future value of your car, do what you feel is right to get the most enjoyment out of it

Edit: Come to think of it, since a lot of the remaining teenagers who are really into cars like to modify them, there's even a chance the 'classic' car market may turn on it's head in the future, with a complete Franken-car being worth more than a pristine original!

Most desirable ones are generally moonstone supercharged ones with superturismo wheels, big brakes and looking like brand new Inside and out.

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andrew315rawson@live.co.uk
Moonstone phase 7 gti6
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White Rallye is the only one I would get now.

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Personally I'd build the car for what you actually want and what to use it for. There all worth F all so what's the point building a car for the next potential owner.

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It's a close call

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andrew315rawson@live.co.uk
Moonstone phase 7 gti6
My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1

This sums it up for me.

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Black Rallye occassional toy

I agree with most of the above; that a cherished, standard looking car with good condition original interior will retain its value the best. Bilsteins or other reversible, high-quality subtle mods would not reduce the value in my view. Cars with well under 100K miles with time-warp interiors and original handbooks, full service histories etc will hold their value best.

Owners can do what they want, but cages, bodies, stripped interior will make the car appeal to a different market, and will reduce the value relative to a clean original car, especially in proportion to the money spent (e.g. expenditure on mods will not be recouped). Anything that makes the car more specialised and hard core will have that effect in my view.

It is hard to say whether Rallyes will go up in value substantially. Certainly (as with the GTI-6) the Rallye is one of the last of the oldish-school GTIs that is relatively simple to maintain, does not rust easily, is full of character and are light weight. It is a good-looking car too. The Rallye has the advantage or being more rare.

But I think a clean Rallye will always be worth something, and I doubt those maintained in great nick will decrease in value any more from here.

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