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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #101
Back tracking a bit, where can I get the discs you use with the angle grinder from? I need to de-rust and strip back the paint in the engine bay of one of mine, those look like they would make short work of it!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 7th Mar 2015 at 21:13
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #102
rallyestyle wrote: 3.30am!! Madman Yeah, I have to get up at 04:30 every day as I work a 6-2 shift but 03:30 was nasty. Was in to see the night shift manager Dan, search for grinder flap discs on eBay. Screwfix do them too, as I suspect a number of DIY places will do. Bang on though, once you've removed any underseal, seam sealant etc, they make very very short work of anything else ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 7th Mar 2015 at 21:23
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #103
Cheers, I'll check them out. Engine bay has a lot of surface rust I need to get rid of before repainting it.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 7th Mar 2015 at 21:40
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #104
Grinder with a wire brush, then a flap disc. Anything left, slap some deox gel on it. Awesome stuff________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 7th Mar 2015 at 21:41
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #106
About time for an update. Been working on this every night when I get home from work for a couple of hours. Get home about 17:30. I live on a pretty quiet estate with a lot of young children, including my daughter and grand daughter so working any later, unless its a quiet job, just isn't happening.So, its taken many hours of ploughing through horrid underseal, stone chip, seam sealant but the underside of the chassis is now pretty much done. I've bare metalled the lot and have already started on the zinc primer as I've gone to make sure i don't get any more surface rust. Its been an awful job and, looking back, I'm not sure if I'd do it again.... The only part left is the front of the exhaust tunnel where I'm yet to remove the forward heat shield as I think the cat needs to come off (and possibly drop the subframe) and the cxat bolts are a nasty, rusty affair that don't want to play right now. But anyhow... So, the chassis and some pics, as that's what we are all here for..... This is the front passenger side, the last real bit i had to do. The floorpan is now much flatter here as I've mostly cured it of the 'blind trolley jacker' disease it had contracted. A large rubber mallet to the inside of the passenger side front foot well worked wonders. Still a little to do but its much better. I'm toying with the idea of drilling the spot welds in the bracket you can see and removing it and getting it back into shape and then have it rewelded. Only 5 or 6 spot welds per bracket. Very difficult to try and reshape on the car as you need to come from the side that's against the chassis..... More pics......... Chassis leg is plenty pitted but wire brushed off pretty much all the surface rust. It still got a good old layer of deox gel which I will remove tomorrow. Hole in the cross member. Again, its been jacked here (FFS! grrrrrr!!) and the cross member is pushed in. Not sure if the hole has been made on purpose or what. Edges are very clean, almost looks like a section has cracked out. Couple of other little pin holes so might have it looked at when it goes in for the sill work. Clean.... I ended up having to jack the car up again so I could move the axle stands to get to the bits behind them. Again, fun.......not. I bought a drill wire brush set from Screwfix this afternoon as the one I had for my drill was worn out and I had some tight spots to get into which the grinder brushes were too big for. £3.99 for a set of 3, surprisingly good actually. It was these.... http://www.screwfix.com/p/drill-carbon-steel-wire-brush-set-3pc/13734 Going back for another set tomorrow as I hammered them this afternoon and have worn down the wire wheel!! Enabled me to get into some tight spots on the rear sill..... So that was that. Just need to pick up some panel wipes tomorrow on my way home and I can wipe down and get it primed. I also noticed a few spot of the zinc primer where is had gone white. On inspection, I could remove the primer with a finger nail. This is no fault of the Electrox primer, its where I hadn't prepped the surface properly. Mainly a very few small corners where id missed surface rust or underseal....All bits taken back to bare metal, surface prepped properly and read for more primer tomorrow. Need to get some Xylene thinners too as I want to thin down some of the primer and do all the chassis joints, so it gets as far inside as I can get it. The Electrox is pretty thick out of the tin so thinning it should allow it to run into the joints better. I'll do the same with the Epoxy mastic but I'll do it before I start painting properly. Again, the more I can get into the cleaned seams the better. I then moved back onto the bump stop area. There are two rectangular sections either inside of the boot floor. Right in line to pick up all the crap from the road wheels. Again, covered in under seal, which, when removed revealed this.... Yuk. More chuffing rust. Stuck a cup wheel on the grinder as that had more access and it did improve a bit.... Still work to do though. So that's where I am at the moment. If I can get the cat/heat shield off, I aim to have the whole chassis in primer by Sunday night. Then it will be time to stick the rear beam back on for now and drag it off somewhere to have the sill repaired. Once that's done, I'll start thinking about the Epoxy mastic..... ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 00:28
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #107
The hole in the cross member is a drain hole and meant to be there so if you get the pin holes repaired or the section replaced remember to put it back.________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 06:35
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #108
A lot of work Wonder if there are any easier ways of doing it that dont cost a fortune?________________________________________ Just Drive It |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 08:34
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Mossy1985
Senior User Location: Darlington Registered: 04 Nov 2014 Posts: 545 Status: Offline |
Post #109
I would love to be able tongive my 6 this sort of treatment but my problem is that i have no clue what im doing when it comes to bodywork. Im a mechanic by trade so i would undertake pretty much anything mechanical that would ever need doing but bodywork for me is an art form. Im that crap at it i wouldnt even like to change over the dented panels on my car as i would be worried i wouldnt get the gaps right etc. Top work here though! Really tip of the hat to you |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 08:46
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #110
Tom, Whilst I don't think there is a cheap way (other than doing it yourself as I, Coskev, Mik etc have done), having it blasted might be the way to go. I wouldn't do this again I don't think, knowing what I know now. Perhaps on a car without all the underseal, yes but the time and physical effort involved is a big consideration. My shoulders and back are shot at the moment. It is indeed a lot of work. Mossy, Im no body work expert either......unless it's the ladies To be honest, I looked at what other people on here did, used a couple of paint/prep related subforums on Detailing world and just got on with it. Bare metal is the best surface to start from, it's then just figuring out the best protection to use for what you are trying to achieve. ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 11:33
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #111
Plastic surgeon? ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 12:08
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #112
lol, no but very good!!!________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 13th Mar 2015 at 12:42
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Nose
Senior User Location: Birmingham Registered: 23 Jun 2013 Posts: 994 Status: Offline |
Post #114
"Whilst I don't think there is a cheap way (other than doing it yourself as I, Coskev, Mik etc have done), having it blasted might be the way to go." Looking into this myself now to be honest. Did the rear of the car (including taking the fuel tank out) by hand and as you say nasty horribl job that took ages. There are are couple of companies not to far from me who do Soda blasting. Apparently this still gets rid of everything, but is a lot easier on the metal, and also leaves a surface covering that will keep rust ay bay for a few days. I still need to do the floor and engine bay, so once i get prices we will be taking out engine/gear box and all front suspension and eveything in the engine bay. There's a place in Bilston (West Mids) that blasted an amphicar in Wheeler Dealers who i will call as they're not far from my painters. Great work by the way ________________________________________ Bianca 306 Rallye.Mondeo Titanium X. |
Posted 14th Mar 2015 at 21:03
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99rallye
Regular Location: Hitchin Registered: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 348 Status: Offline |
Post #115
Really enjoying this build. I didn't realise you were in Leicestershire. My Rallye lives at my parents place near Melton Mowbray, I'd love to come and have a look at yours in the flesh sometime. |
Posted 14th Mar 2015 at 21:11
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #116
Thanks guys. Comments much appreciated.Nose, yeah, soda blasting or dry ice blasting is supposed to be pretty good. No one round me that does a mobile service that I could find. 99rallye, come have a look when ever bud. More than welcome ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 14th Mar 2015 at 22:05
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #117
gpm wrote: Whilst I don't think there is a cheap way (other than doing it yourself as I, Coskev, Mik etc have done), having it blasted might be the way to go. I wouldn't do this again I don't think, knowing what I know now. Perhaps on a car without all the underseal, yes but the time and physical effort involved is a big consideration. My shoulders and back are shot at the moment. It is indeed a lot of work. Agreed, I don't think I would do it again either, knowing how much work is involved. Not without a hoist anyway. Or, as I once discussed with Coskev, taking the engine, fuel tank, suspension off, putting it on a spit and blasting it using a mobile service. But now I'm on top of it I'll finish it off, and I'm not selling the car after all that! ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 15th Mar 2015 at 13:17
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #118
Mik, I looked at the spit/rotisserie idea as well. Only issue is how high you have to lift it to get it on there. Can imagine it would be very, very easy to work on after that.I know what you mean. I'm planning on only doing this the once. Do it right and it won't take much at all to maintain. And, unless the roof over my head is under threat, I'll never sell it either!! ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 15th Mar 2015 at 13:25
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #120
Some serious work going into this. Its a nightmare working on cars like this on axle stands! I know your pain had to dona few bits and bobs under a mates car last week. ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 15th Mar 2015 at 22:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #121
you've got something on the lens I reckon, seen similar with my own phone, needed a proper clean.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 15th Mar 2015 at 22:20
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #122
Think of it as a Coskev Mk2 Eddy. Yes, a lot of work so far. A lot more to do yet. Have started compiling a parts list. Peugeot gonna love me.....few trim bits missing too and will be resprayed completely eventually. Will need a new bonnet, passenger door, passenger wing......It really is a pain trying to work under it. Boot end isn't too bad. Front end is awful. Have to lie flat on my back, I can't turn over or lie on my side (muly bloody shoulders are about 3ft across, I hate being big sometimes). Trolley Jack isn't very big at all. Had to use two scrap blocks from a pallet at work with it just to get it up to where it is. Still got two holes to go on the stands but haven't the balls to Jack it any higher!!! ________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
Posted 15th Mar 2015 at 22:25
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