Post #101
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 Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro  Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 22nd Sep 2014 at 10:53
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #102
£15 posted? ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 22nd Sep 2014 at 11:07
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #103
Hi Dan, A guy locally has just offered me one so i'm going to give that a go first as he's litterally 5 mins away (its a Bitron identical to mine so less risky), if thats no good i'll certainly come back to you asap Thanks again Chris |
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Posted 22nd Sep 2014 at 11:26
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Chr1sch
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Post #104
Cully/Welshpug, can either of you she's light on this? If dans will work I'll buy this bloke with the exact one is messing me around something chronic and I need it ASAP!Cheers Chris |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2014 at 20:18
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #105
Only ever seen the bitron unit one a 6 ? |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2014 at 20:47
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Chr1sch
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Post #106
That's what I thought, all very confusing! |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2014 at 21:55
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #107
im guessing if i said it would workbut as my pm peugeot wouldnt change the spec of the box except for the temp ranges do you know of anyone local to you with a 6 you could try their box? think the dervs had the same box but maybe a different temp range NOT THE HDI's as they are ECU controlled |
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Posted 24th Sep 2014 at 12:36
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #108
Thanks CullySo Dan is sending me his as its worth a try...the local one turned up today and its from a bloody 206, looks identical (Says bitron ppe gf10 on it) but the the molded lip is on the opposite side to the 306 one. Im assuming its not a good idea to cut the lip off and try it? I've also been reading this thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=111406&page=2 is there any way if I have both fans spinning on low speed when bridging the relay that i could have a dodgy earth and they both still work? I'm assuming not... I'll try Dan's box tomorrow when it arrives (thanks Dan) but i fear the worst and im running out of time/options before the track day :s Cheers Chris |
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Posted 25th Sep 2014 at 13:11
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #109
Posted about 2 hours ago as special delivery so hopefully it will fix it!  ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 25th Sep 2014 at 14:01
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #110
FFS I could cry, fitted dans bitron and no difference, i'm utterly lost now, I've done everything people suggested!?To recap I've done all of the following/these all happen: 1) remove brown plug and only drivers side fan spins at high speed 2) looking at the car head on if I bridge pins 3 and 5 of the right hand upper relay (green 4 pin) both fans spin at low speed 3) replaced black 5 pin relay 4) swapped the 2 green relays over and same scenario as above happens (assume this means both are ok) 5) replaced bitron 6) checked look connection in bottom right of fan housing 7) checked all fuses inside car So based on above what on earth can be wrong with it?! Could both still spin up when I bridge the green relay if there was a dodgy earth? Does anything look wrong here? (Is this the earth? Fuse 8 is missing?)  Anything would be massively appreciated :-( Cheers Chris |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 15:36
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #111
hmmmm well erm thinking time againis dan's bitron known to be working? did you check the earth points under the battery tray on the chassis leg? |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 15:57
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #112
Hi Cully, thanks i've been looking for that lol!To top it all off i've just locked the car in the garage, with the garage keys in... Dan's was off a working car so not 100% guaranteed but pretty unlucky! |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 16:05
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #113
the earths are just in front the battery on the chassis leg your fuse box has an extra fuse fitted compared to mine but mine might be wrong who knows  you could try doing the A/C switch mod to use the ac button as the fan switch see if that forces the relays to power the fans unplug A/C compressor white plug unplug A/C pressure switch bridge selected pins on the plug for the pressure switch  |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 16:14
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Chr1sch
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Post #114
You sir are a true gent thank you! |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 16:56
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #115
Fans worked on the car, used to sit at a steady 90 degrees in traffic. I think he did the fan mod as well though.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 17:37
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #116
i have another drawing for youthis drawing is the cable layout with wire numbers i sugest checking the two aditional loom plugs on the n/s chassis leg at low level these are the engine loom plugs but some fan controls and power run through them  |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 19:36
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Chr1sch
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Post #117
Ah great thanks :-) |
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Posted 26th Sep 2014 at 21:14
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Chr1sch
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Post #118
Ok so I've done the ac switch mod and only the drivers side comes on!? |
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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 18:41
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Chr1sch
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Post #119
Can one fan work and still have a dud earth? |
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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 19:21
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #120
please recheck fuse F2even pull it out and replace it, check the ends arnt burned use a multi metre to check it dont rely on a visual check as they can look good and still be bad you wont have a dead earth as you can get both fans spinning via linking 3-5 on the relay base both fans use the same earth point |
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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 20:13
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Chr1sch
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Post #121
Thanks cully will do , for the avoidance of doubt:1) shall I replace both green relays? 2) which is fuse f2? (I've already multimetred all of them but will replace as described...) |
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Posted 27th Sep 2014 at 23:52
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #122
Check the loom plugs at the front of the car to the right of the rad |
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Posted 28th Sep 2014 at 00:43
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Chr1sch
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Post #123
Yep done that already bbb like new! |
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Posted 28th Sep 2014 at 07:43
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #124
F2 -F3 are the two 40 amp fuses side by side on there own in the engine bay fuse box |
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Posted 28th Sep 2014 at 09:48
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Chr1sch
Seasoned Pro Location: Worcester Registered: 02 Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025 Status: Offline |
Post #125
Awesome thanks will check now :-) |
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Posted 28th Sep 2014 at 09:52
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