Anyone thing is the springs rather than shocks?

We're all on B4's body length is wrong, but all other dimensions are correct.

We all have lowering springs and we're all no lower.....

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Eddy just stuck some on his standard shocks and says they've not lowered it.

Sorry, I was under the impression the locating tab is in the correct place, but the body of the shock isn't correct

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Are they brand new? In which case they will take a few days of driving to settle down. Eibachs don't drop by much anyway and as said the original springs will have sagged over years of use.

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as i believe it the tab at the bottom is welded too low on the body....stopping it from sitting in hub lower as pete said.
I posted here a while back as someone said they were willing to take this up with bilstein...but nothing
Shame coz im itching to buy a set but not spending out on something that does not achieve what i want

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Ha, just read through this whole thread and realized that this thread was started because of the car i now own and seeing as they have been on the car nearly 2 years and had no issues a cant see it being a problem

also as its supercharged surely they would have been under more stress and its hasn't affected them at all.

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Bump.

I'm pretty p**sed to discover that I too have monster truck levels of front ride height. I wish I'd known of this issue before buying and fitting new shock absorbers. Never mind...

Guess what? They aren't B4s. They are infact just simple Sachs standard replacements for OE shocks; so it seems Bilstein aren't alone is this.

I have taken a few measurements so far and I think I'll try to update the thread with a post covering a few measurements in the coming days. This will no doubt be a huge help given how common 306s are on the roads in 2021.

I have a pair of used OE shock absorbers and will take careful measurements of these, with photos, along with a crusty 10 year old pattern part Boge [beau-shhh? Bodge? bog-ee?] likely from GSF that I'll also include, and finally the new Sachs replacements which are too high.

On first inspection it seems that the distance between the base of the location tab (flush with the top of the hub clamp) and the part of the spring seat directly in line with it is approx. 2cm more than the OE and Boge shock. The Boge one measures correctly in all dimensions when compared with OE.

Something else interesting to note; unlike many examples of Bilstein shocks in this thread, the base of the Sachs units actually protrudes slightly (up to ~1cm) below the lower face of the hub clamp. I'm leaning towards the spring seat being fixed too high. Does that seem reasonable? The springs are OE 5002P9 yellow, white, green.

My concern at this stage is what to do about it. Getting them repaced/refunded might be a hassle given that I've fitted them. I saw someone in this or another thread on the same issue say that cutting off the locating tab isn't a crazy idea and some coilovers don't even have this tab anyway. So would cutting the welds and removing the tab be a reasonable thing to do? I'm happy to carefully scribe an accurate circumferencial mark for where the shock should sit in the hub based on the OE shocks I have to hand.
I'm actually a little concerned that the extra shock body protruding through the clamp might be a little too close to the CV gaiter if I were to do this.

Does the tab play any part in preventing the shock sliding through the clamp and hitting the CV joint when I land Ballaugh Bridge at 120mph, or is it all in the clamping force?

Not had any problems with b4s or monroes.

I have some gaz adjustables here that I'll probably trial git at some point

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Sure, as follow:

Monroe front right = R8001
Monroe front left = R8002



9 = 525421
7 = 503377
2 = 503137

I'm not sure if the bump stops and boots I was supplied are 100% right so suggest you find some that correspond to:
3 = 525413
4 = 503327

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Those Monroe shocks seem like a good option for me. I also see they are oil pressure like the OE units, not gas pressure.

I'll do the right thing and order new correctly manufactured shocks instead of butchering these Sachs ones. Bloody annoying waste of time and money...

Below are the measurements from the OE Peugeot shock absorbers. The spring seat isn't located at an equal distance around the circumference, so I took measurements in line with the hub locating tab (it's a tab on aftermarket shocks but more of a ridge on the OE units, as shown) directly parallel to the drop link tab.
I used the lowest edge of the spring seat where the coil would sit, not the recessed area where the seat is fixed to the shock body.

For the drop link tab, I didn't measure to the tab top/bottom as each manufacturer will have welded a slightly different size tab on; I took it to the centre of the drop link bolt hole.


178mm - spring seat to base of hub locator tab
75mm - spring seat to drop link centre bolt hole
103mm - drop link centre bolt hole to base of hub locator tab

I was looking into the difference between gas-shocks and oil shocks... seems gas-shocks are oil-shocks with gas pressure to have a better reaction. The Bilstein B4 is a gas-shock.

As many say B4s are closest to OEM, how much does the gas add to to handling on a 306?

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