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 RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #76
It will run without TPS but I think it will be pretty slow as it'll be running lean a fair bit. Definitely not ideal for anything other than testing it.________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
 Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 10:39
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #77
Ok it was getting dark so I had a quick play it seems to have stoped misfiring im wondering if the k and n sat behind the rad is getting to wet causing it to misfire has it's been very wet here , my fuel pump keeps priming its self after the cars parked up keys out the ignition every thing just primes its self 3 or 4 times is this normal ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 18:51
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #78
Not sure if that is causing it but an exposed cone down there on oxfordshire's wet country roads etc. is asking for trouble really.Consider an enclosed filter? I've also got a K&N but it is semi-shrouded from the sides and beneath but I'm fitting a BMC enclosed one soon. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 18:56
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #79
How are you planning on fitting it i looked at doing it but the only way i saw possible was to move the battery to the boot unless you wanted to run the intake down by the fogs, ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 18:59
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #80
I'm going to fit it where the original airbox was on the end of the original pipe that goes to the throttle body. I'll use a bracket to fix it to one of the original airbox mounting holes rather than the gearbox as this'll get it in the same place as original. Then a silicone 180 bend or two 90 bends depending on where it sits etc. from the bottom to the OEM snorkel. Also don't want a fog-light inlet.I'm going to trial fit it at the weekend and see if it works like this but I don't see why it shouldn't really, then if it's all good buy the hoses. Was going to borrow a mate's axle stands and jack as mine are elsewhere and test fit it, however if you want to trial fit it like this together to have a look as well that'd be cool too. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 19:03
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #81
I think I'm going to whack a standard air box on it with a k n filter in it , i really want to fit bodies so it will only be temporary. Be good to see how you do it ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 19:05
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #82
The standard airbox is actually really good it's just an arse to remove and always breaks the mounting studs. Works great with a K&N had one of those as well.________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 19:20
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #83
Right that why I put a k n on the xsi in the first place cause the bracket broke off , i probaly couldn't fit a standard one now, I'll have to wait and see what your bmc project turns out like , do you know if that fuel pump priming its selfs normall , does yours do it ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 19:28
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #84
The studs always snap off of the standard airbox but you can buy the studs individually and spot weld them back on (I think). The mounting holes will still be there for the standard airbox but finding an airbox that isn't broken is the hard part.When you turn the key to the second increment, before turning the engine on, you should hear the fuel pump priming for a second or two. All three '6s I've had have made another, similar noise if left standing and locked for a little while, just once but I don't actually know what it is or much about the fuel pump at all really. I can't remember, but have you ever replaced the fuel filter and spark plugs? ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 11:05
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #85
It's driving a lot better now takes a bit to start but now idles since it's been dryer it's not misfiring while driving just the hesitation rough de acceleration to sort now , in all fairness if i can get it to run better just so I can use it for a couple of months once ive come back from traveling ill either break it or chuck another engine in it . It's just not drivable at the moment ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 17:21
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #86
Does it start easily when warm but with a lot of difficulty when cold?________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 18:08
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jon boy
Regular  Location: high wycombe Registered: 24 May 2008 Posts: 202 Status: Offline |
Post #87
I've got a spare complete engine (with failed head gasket) if you want to borrow any sensors or parts to help work out what the problem is. Don't think you are that far from me. |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 18:47
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #88
Cheers Jon boy im only in watlington so if i get stuck I'll give you a shout.  It only makes a slight difference if its warm its still a bugger to start it was starting a lot better until last week or so now it's back to how it was .  ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:19
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #89
Any chance the immobiliser could cause something like this? ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:39
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #90
I'm not sure i got a ph1 ecu thats unlocked but it was the same with my ph2 which goes with the car ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 21:16
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #91
daver6 wrote: Any chance the immobiliser could cause something like this? No, the immobiliser being activated would mean the engine wouldn't fire at all. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 00:13
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jon boy
Regular Location: high wycombe Registered: 24 May 2008 Posts: 202 Status: Offline |
Post #92
Cjwatson27 wrote: Cheers Jon boy im only in watlington so if i get stuck I'll give you a shout. It only makes a slight difference if its warm its still a bugger to start it was starting a lot better until last week or so now it's back to how it was . I have a spare unlocked ECU as well if you wanna give that a try. Don't give up on it yet... |
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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 12:50
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #93
Very much doubt it is the ECU.You said the filter keeps getting wet...is it all clogged up with s**t perhaps? Does anyone have experience of running different cams without a remap? Could this cause issues? ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 14:20
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #94
It's seems to be intermittent thats what makes me say its got to be a sensor or loom issues ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 19:48
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #95
I was having problems with slight bogging down under acceleration and very low throttle and removing the shroud I had around my cone filter cured it, as it was choking it a bit...could be that yours is being restricted by being clogged up with stuff if it got all wet and muddy.Now running an exposed cone but with a big shield around it that stops water getting to it and directs the snorkel at it. http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=158618&page=last ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 9th Mar 2014 at 09:11
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #96
 I've took this off the road now has it become undriveable  ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 16th Mar 2014 at 14:38
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #97
Checked the filter isn't totally blocked?As above a restricted filter caused flat spots and poor response. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 16th Mar 2014 at 15:49
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #98
Gave up with it mate, I'm going to leave it till I come back from traveling, I might break it when I'm back do you want dibs on the exhaust if I do? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 16th Mar 2014 at 16:10
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #99
Hoping to have gotten something by then (whenever that is?) but if you do break let me know.It's a shame as when these cars are well-sorted they are great. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 16th Mar 2014 at 17:36
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #100
 I should never of fitted the gti6 engine . Has a xsi it was reliable, economical, and drive able yeah was no match for a lot of other cars out there but what ive ended up with i should of had the xsi lump repaired ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 16th Mar 2014 at 20:57
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