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 oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #26
i'll write it again: "expensive procedure for ordinary mild steel",meaning it's not financially wise to protect a hillbilly shack with top class anti theft system. That's how you should read it anyhow . ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
 Posted 22nd May 2014 at 11:05
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #27
oldbrownshoe wrote: i'll write it again: "expensive procedure for ordinary mild steel", meaning it's not financially wise to protect a hillbilly shack with top class anti theft system. That's how you should read it anyhow . It's expensive yes but it does the job best. Creating a intricate carbon fibre front wing for an F1 car is an expensive procedure for something that’s likely to shatter when clipping another car, it does the job best though. ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 11:19
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #28
F1 car is also the spear head of mega million business,306GTi-6 is Not. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 11:29
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #29
But a 450 odd hp 306 produces a lot of heat and also sets fire to your engine bay so ceramic coating helps prevent this!Iirc gti6 manifolds are stainless steel |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 11:40
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #30
You don't seem to get the point brownshoe. It's not about protecting the manifold. If it was, it wouldn't be financially viable. It's about keeping engine bay temps down. |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 12:05
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I think that you don't seem to get my point, i know about ceramic coating and plasma spraying process from 1983, i don't have any doubt about it's efficiency in isolation, i just question how wise is to implement it on material prone to corrosion like mild steel. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 12:44
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #32
What is mild steel? And what point are you trying to get across? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 14:56
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #33
oldbrownshoe wrote: F1 car is also the spear head of mega million business, 306GTi-6 is Not.  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 14:48
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #34
pugheaven wrote: What is mild steel? I guess this is good example  pugheaven wrote: And what point are you trying to get across? That expensive coating is justified when it's done on a long lasting materials. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 15:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #35
that is not mild steel, its low grade stainless.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 15:41
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Bad guess. welshpug! wrote: that is not mild steel, its low grade stainless. so it's finally will corrode ? ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 15:48
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #37
That's pretty damned cheap, got a quote for almost a grand for the buggy's exhaust  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 15:59
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Well some exhaust manifolds are at least 17 years old and iv never heard of one corroding......Just to make it clear ceramic coating is not to stop corrosion it's to lower engine bay temps! If you don't have the money to "waste" on getting it done don't worry about it but I myself decided that it was worth while getting it done |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 16:03
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #39
pugheaven wrote: Just to make it clear ceramic coating is not to stop corrosion it's to lower engine bay temps!  ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 16:50
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #40
oldbrownshoe wrote: Bad guess. welshpug! wrote: that is not mild steel, its low grade stainless. so it's finally will corrode ? Well they are all at least 12 years old now and I've not seen any that have corroded away yet so i would say that it corroding in any of our ownership of our cars (except Stans which will rot before his eyes in his garage over a 30 year period) is not a problem. |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 19:52
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #41
It will prevent corrosion and keeps engine bay temps down. The materialls are fully cleaned before the coating is applyed. Its awesome stuff until ure manifold cracks then you have to put it in the bin.________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd May 2014 at 20:23
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #42
pugheaven wrote: If you don't have the money to "waste" on getting it done don't worry about it When i wrote "expensive" i didn't mean that i can't afford it, just in relation to manifold worth. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 23rd May 2014 at 06:09
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #43
What exactly is the material. You say low grade stainless, but that looks very mild. Is it something like 4003 or something? ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 23rd May 2014 at 19:43
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Gti6 manifold is 304 stainless________________________________________ |
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Posted 23rd May 2014 at 20:43
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Thats a proper stainless. Not a hybrid. Only real difference worth noting is isnt very resiliant to salt. When we build baf tanks and other vessel's we normally use 304. If its going to get salt or more aggressive chemicals ran through it then we use 316. Must only look like mild due to getting so hot then. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 27th May 2014 at 09:16
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Its also what they use to make commercial kitchen eqipment. Proper stainless________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 28th May 2014 at 13:31
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #47
316 is also 6-7 times more expensive than 304. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 28th May 2014 at 15:34
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #48
learn something new every day________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 28th May 2014 at 17:14
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