Post #76
Yep not cheap but like you said above you could just use pc fans for a lot less cash as long as the flow enough air!
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 pugheaven
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 Posted 23rd Oct 2013 at 23:27
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #77
Yeah, just grab a PC fan with thermistor speed control, be about 15-20 quid.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2013 at 23:29
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jamiek_uk2000
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Post #78
I'd love to see how long it would last though...________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 23rd Oct 2013 at 23:37
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doof
Regular  Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #79
They're not going to be waterproof are they. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 00:00
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phillipm
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Post #80
doof wrote: They're not going to be waterproof are they. I've run some underwater before! ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 00:07
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pugheaven
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Post #81
Pretty sure iv seen some water cooled pc's use them to circulate the water so I guess you can get water proof ones |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 00:20
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #82
Doof, when you say 'max inlet temps of 80' I'm guessing you mean the oil inlet temp rather than the charge inlet temp? Sorry I'm perhaps reading it wrong but if I was told max inlet temp for a charger i'd take it as air/charge temp?________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 06:26
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #83
Sorry it was definitely oil temperature in to the charger. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 07:55
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m306
Seasoned Pro  Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #84
How is it going to get that hot? Its not got any combustion like an engine, or exhaust temp like a turbo so hos does it generate that much heat?________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 09:59
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #85
Remember ambient temp in the engine bay is probably 70 degrees. Its still spinning at Over 10000 rpm and will naturally generate heat conpressing air. |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 10:07
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m306
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Post #86
Oh i see, thanks________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 24th Oct 2013 at 12:44
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #87
Ordered a new 'charger today after taking the old one off at the weekend. Think the datestamp on my old 'charger was 12/09 so nearly 4 years old. The input shaft hasn't snapped, it still spins though it's extremely stiff to rotate it by hand. I'm not sure exactly what to expect but I'll be in touch with Rotrex again tomorrow to see what they say.Speaking to Richard at TTS he said that a 13 row cooler should be satisfactory on these and they don't position their coolers behind fans either so I think I'm just going to run without but plumb in a temperature sensor and keep an eye on it. |
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Posted 28th Oct 2013 at 17:13
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #88
Anyone know how to get the metal boost pipe off the supercharger outlet? It looks like it's either pressed on or welded on but I've given it a pull and it won't budge.Also, does anyone know if the inlet of the supercharger is standard? I don't have it to hand (or any good pictures) but it looks like there's a 4 bolt flange pressed / welded on to allow the throttle to bolt up to it. |
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Posted 29th Oct 2013 at 15:43
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #89
It could be welded, depends how the orginal owner wanted to do it.Its not standard no  As you say there is a flange welded on which allows the tb to bolt up correctly. Will struggle to get that apart again i suspect  You could possible just hold on to that part though as i cant imagine it will be need for anyone to assess damage to the carger  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 29th Oct 2013 at 16:30
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #90
Just to confirm, I spoke to Nick at Lynx and the throttle adaptor is just a press fit so I should be able to pop that off and reuse it. The high boost pipework is welded on though so I'll have to look at either swapping the housing (which i'm not keen on) or getting another pipe made up and welded on. I'm not really keen on welding the new outlet on though but I'm not sure how else to do it. How are other boost pipes normally attached to superchargers? Surely silicone is good enough for 1 bar? |
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Posted 30th Oct 2013 at 12:52
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Hawkesfire
Regular  Location: Stockton on tees Registered: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #91
I have just used a silicone hose on mine for HB and its been ok?Marty ________________________________________ 206 Rallycross GTI6 SC SHB 425 BHP clutch eater !!! |
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Posted 30th Oct 2013 at 13:22
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #92
Some of the pipework is already silicone hose and copes fine. ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2013 at 15:07
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #93
If you have a silicone joiner on the charger outlet, it will collapse when off boost. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 30th Oct 2013 at 17:56
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m306
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Post #94
Dont come off boost then  ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2013 at 18:52
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #95
doof wrote: Just to confirm, I spoke to Nick at Lynx and the throttle adaptor is just a press fit so I should be able to pop that off and reuse it. The high boost pipework is welded on though so I'll have to look at either swapping the housing (which i'm not keen on) or getting another pipe made up and welded on. I'm not really keen on welding the new outlet on though but I'm not sure how else to do it. How are other boost pipes normally attached to superchargers? Surely silicone is good enough for 1 bar? I pressed mine in and then got it welded although as you say it wasnt a requirement. For the outlet from the charger i used one of these bad boys... As long as there are no major gaps between pipework then silicone couplings are fine :-) ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 31st Oct 2013 at 10:39
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #96
Did any one find out the min/max oil temp for the charger/fluid? |
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Posted 19th Nov 2013 at 17:35
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #97
I'm still waiting for my charger from TTS so not really looked into this. The max temp was 80 degrees but I don't know about min / ideal operating temps. I'm going to stick with the same size oil cooler but plumb in a temp sensor so I can keep an eye on it. Will report back how that goes. |
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Posted 26th Nov 2013 at 11:35
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
Post #98
As if I wasn't already p**sed off with Rotrex enough I'm still sat here waiting for my supercharger that I paid for back in October. I was offered a 10 day lead time by TTS but here we are nearly 3 months later and I still have nothing! I started off really pleased with TTS and now I'm just being fobbed off and Richard is barely responding to my emails.Might email Rotrex and have a moan to make myself feel better. |
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Posted 10th Jan 2014 at 11:11
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #99
 Whats the reason they are giving you?________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 10th Jan 2014 at 12:06
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rikky
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Post #100
probably none judging by the sounds of it i would be tempted to tell them it's a hire car and you're going to be passing on a £60 a day bill for car being out of use this may have happened to me when waiting for a £1000 payout for a smashed up gti6 a few years ago  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 10th Jan 2014 at 13:36
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