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 allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #26
jamiek_uk2000 wrote: What year is it off then? I know the earlier ones didn't have a clutch whilst the later ones did. jamiek_uk2000 wrote: the early ones did have a clutch as I said which was pulled later on. Come on mate!  ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
 Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:29
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Woodstain wrote: Ok I'm learning a lot, but one thing I'm not clear on is, do chargers have an oil feed from the engine or it's own kinda oil circulation? I know it's got to cooled but not sure if it's oil fed like a turbo? Plus if I just used the pulley it came with (m45) would that be ok? I'll have to do more research particularly on oil, pulley sizes, but ill give it a go I think sounds fun..... Eaton chargers are self contained with no oil feeds and no cooling, they're supposed to have roughly a 100k lifespan. You can change the oil yourself if you fancy. They came with various pulley sizes, you want to be looking at a ratio of at least 2:1. The best m45 to use is the later item off a cooper s with the coated rotors, you'll pay a premium for them though. Merc m45s are very cheap. If you register on 205gtidrivers.com you'll be able to view my build thread and stefs which is very similar ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:35
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Woodstain wrote: Ok I'm learning a lot, but one thing I'm not clear on is, do chargers have an oil feed from the engine or it's own kinda oil circulation? I know it's got to cooled but not sure if it's oil fed like a turbo? Plus if I just used the pulley it came with (m45) would that be ok? I'll have to do more research particularly on oil, pulley sizes, but ill give it a go I think sounds fun..... I'm quite impressed by your ambition of this. If you go ahead then there is a projects section and I'm sure the many knowledgeable members will be able to help you along. Get a good camera for it too. ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:35
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #29
mattgti6phase2 wrote: The merc charger will work fine. A friend of mine has this exact set up on his 205 GTI6. The noise is immense due to the whine you get from this type of charger. Sounds much better than a rotrex application, however his only makes 212bhp so it's a fair bit down compared to the rotrex. So which is it to be, sound or POOOOOOOOWA??!!!  Welcome btw  Thats Tom i assume? I bloody love his car! Did offer to buy it from him but he wasnt interested lol. Yes it will work as i am doing the exact thing at the moment. I am not after huge amounts of power but as Matt has said, the noise is immense! |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:37
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #30
I'm not going to argue with someone that knows a lot more than me, especially someone that has the thing fitted to their car. I tried to help with what I knew at the time, which be it limited was pointing in the right direction. The only reason that I knew that about the clutch was I know someone that had an SLK with a f**ked charger and had to get another one, but wasn't sure if it was a clutched version or not.I did ask to see how you had fitted yours, I've not seen anyone else make any other inlet than the lynx one. Since you work for an engineering firm I imagine whipping something up to make it work is just a bit of fun whilst on lunch in work I wasn't sure how far into machining things OP wanted to go.In all fairness that is a constant curve, I was always led to believe that the root/screw chargers always dropped off at top end but that was always the trade off with having the much better low down torque which gives real world performance. ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:40
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Self contained oil for the nose bearings and gears.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 21:49
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Fair enough, it was very Misleading info though. I made mine some time ago now, mainly in my garage with basic tools, I had a local fabricator do the welding for me and there was limited machining which I did do myself mind. Few pics    ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 22:00
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Chris28190
Senior User  Location: . Registered: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 736 Status: Offline |
Post #33
That hose ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye '99 - Sold |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 22:10
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Proper garage mechanics. It does seem to be a larger unit than a rotrex though, I just wasn't sure if there was the room to get that unit in there. Obviously there is!________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 22:16
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Woodstain
Junior User Location: Luton Registered: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 62 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Yea I didn't mean to start a war, but it looks like we're all mates again so that's cool....The pics looks good Allan, love a bit of home creativity, thanks for ALL your help guys, particularly for the help with the oil thing tho, much clearer on that now too... Feel like I've got to do it now like it would be rude not too.... Might take a while tho, I've been putting a redtop into a nova for 8 months! Lol but that went ok....... Would like it running by next spring.. My pug not the nova that runs fine.... |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 22:35
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Niall wrote: mattgti6phase2 wrote: The merc charger will work fine. A friend of mine has this exact set up on his 205 GTI6. The noise is immense due to the whine you get from this type of charger. Sounds much better than a rotrex application, however his only makes 212bhp so it's a fair bit down compared to the rotrex. So which is it to be, sound or POOOOOOOOWA??!!! Welcome btw Thats Tom i assume? I bloody love his car! Did offer to buy it from him but he wasnt interested lol. Yes it will work as i am doing the exact thing at the moment. I am not after huge amounts of power but as Matt has said, the noise is immense! Yes sir. That thing is f**kING FAST! Not quick FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!!!!! I shall add pics hopefully tomoz. It's a very tidy conversion indeed. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 23:31
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #37
mattgti6phase2 wrote: Niall wrote: mattgti6phase2 wrote: The merc charger will work fine. A friend of mine has this exact set up on his 205 GTI6. The noise is immense due to the whine you get from this type of charger. Sounds much better than a rotrex application, however his only makes 212bhp so it's a fair bit down compared to the rotrex. So which is it to be, sound or POOOOOOOOWA??!!! Welcome btw Thats Tom i assume? I bloody love his car! Did offer to buy it from him but he wasnt interested lol. Yes it will work as i am doing the exact thing at the moment. I am not after huge amounts of power but as Matt has said, the noise is immense! Yes sir. That thing is f**kING FAST! Not quick FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST!!!!!! I shall add pics hopefully tomoz. It's a very tidy conversion indeed. i know. He took me out in it at ace a few months back (how come you dont come down for the monthly meets?). I felt like a 3 year old at christmas afterwards. its bloody good fun! lol. Trying to get hold of him at the moment actually as apparently his mate might be able to knock me up a manifold but i dont think he uses forums all that often! |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 23:35
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #38
I normally pop down but haven't been in a while so I'll make an effort for the next one. You going?? I'll PM you his number if you like?? When he took me out in it I accidentally touched my willy! ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 23:46
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Yeah I go every month and this Saturday is a 306 day if you want to pop down. If you could pm me his number, that would be great. I can keep hassling him offering him money for his car. Lol |
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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 11:27
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allye
Regular  Location: Devizes Registered: 05 May 2011 Posts: 204 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Have a good read through this one, should help a fair bit!http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=135465&page=1 ________________________________________ 205 Van SC'd GTI6 - because why not309 Goodwood V6 - sold 205 Rallye GTI6 - Bent |
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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 11:39
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #41
allye wrote: Have a good read through this one, should help a fair bit! http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=135465&page=1 Epic pugplus sump |
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Posted 10th Oct 2013 at 19:42
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Woodstain
Junior User Location: Luton Registered: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 62 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Just one more question.... (that's a lie there will be loads more) where does the power steering go if I get a relocation bracket? Is it where the aircon was? Cos that's already gone on mine. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 08:48
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Woodstain wrote: Just one more question.... (that's a lie there will be loads more) where does the power steering go if I get a relocation bracket? Is it where the aircon was? Cos that's already gone on mine.  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 10:27
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #44
To make your life easier I'd go with a saxo/106 electric pas pump________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 11:28
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #45
allanallen wrote: To make your life easier I'd go with a saxo/106 electric pas pump This is what im doing. Picked mine up for £20 from the breakers and it fits perfectly where the airbox used to be. |
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Posted 11th Oct 2013 at 17:22
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Woodstain
Junior User Location: Luton Registered: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 62 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Hi again, I've been looking at petes project thread and learned a lot, but was confused as to what a 'stepper' is and what it does? Can someone enlighten me pls? And thanks Niall I will be doing as u say and using an electric pump looks much easier. I hope I can start my project just after crimbo. |
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Posted 1st Nov 2013 at 09:56
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #47
It's the idle control valve sir. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 1st Nov 2013 at 10:44
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Idle control valve I would think________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 1st Nov 2013 at 10:47
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Woodstain
Junior User Location: Luton Registered: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 62 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Ok thanks guys. |
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Posted 1st Nov 2013 at 15:30
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