Any knowledge on whether they can be successfully rebuilt, and if so, who could do/has done it?
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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Has anyone had a power steering ram rebuilt? Mine has a slight leak, wondering what we do now these parts are NLA. Any knowledge on whether they can be successfully rebuilt, and if so, who could do/has done it? ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 22:47
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mike rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: mold Registered: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 1,618 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I also would be intrested to know, as mine is leaking to |
Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 22:50
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #3
http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time. I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool! |
Posted 13th Aug 2013 at 23:12
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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Anyone want a new one Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 21:40
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jord294
Seasoned Pro Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
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How much?________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 21:42
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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jord294 wrote: How much? Only have one left, I gave more for them than service box suggests, would be looking at £200 Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:14
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
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Niall wrote: http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time. I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool! And this is what happened to me this morning on my driveway i guess |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:37
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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Niall wrote: http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time. I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool! Any idea of what your friend paid? ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:44
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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marco gti6 wrote: Niall wrote: http://www.hydraulic-ram-repairs.com try these guys. A friend got one on his BMW done by these guys. Very quick turn around time. I would recommend getting it done asap. When i bought my car, it was leaking. Within 3 weeks, it had used over 2 litres of fluid and eventually just blew the seal one day dumping almost all of my PAS fluid on the road in a matter of minutes. Not cool! And this is what happened to me this morning on my driveway i guess You sure it's not the pump Marco? The pump is now situated right under the passenger head light on yours, the ram is in the centre of the car by the bulkhead. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:47
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Would you not be better just buying second hand when someone breaking one?I got ne of these 2nd hand for £30 a year ago. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 22:48
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Steering ram ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
Posted 14th Aug 2013 at 23:16
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I saw that. It is really all about risk. A second hand 13 year old one might start leaking a week after you put it in. For the PITA and labour involved I'd rather put one in that will last a few years. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:39
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jord294
Seasoned Pro Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I think I'd rather spend on 2nd hand first. Then if it does start leaking, have a chat with the guys that repair them.I know they're NLA, but I reckon they can be repaired cheaper ________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:42
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I'll see if I've got a spare one somewhere to crack apart and have a look.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 17:52
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: I'll see if I've got a spare one somewhere to crack apart and have a look. You've got too much to be getting on with already! Got that rear suspension sorted yet? ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:10
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Nope. Not even been looked at for ages, too busy with the buggy.Gotta finish a prototype over winter though as my back beam is getting tired ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:48
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mike rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: mold Registered: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 1,618 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Just so I understand it correctly, the bit that normally fails on the power steering rack , is the ram which is pictured on that ebay link? |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 18:53
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #18
mike rallye wrote: Just so I understand it correctly, the bit that normally fails on the power steering rack , is the ram which is pictured on that ebay link? Yes. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 19:31
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Same as other hydraulic cylinders, the seals get contaminated with dirt, in this case cr@p coming off the road as it is quite low down attached to the subframe, and abrasive dirt particles get on the exposed bit of piston and as the cylinder operates the dirt damages the seal which fails and starts leaking. Or seals just give up over time. The piece of bin liner that supposedly protects the ram clearly doesn't work so well in this case. Mine was torn and hanging off doing no protective action of any kind when I got the car, which had just gone through a nice salty gritty Scottish winter. To rebuild the ram, it is stripped down and if the bore and piston are not pitted or otherwise damaged it can usually be rebuilt with new seals, and will then be as good as new. Some hydraulic cylinders cannot be rebuilt successfully for a variety of reasons. I remember getting a rebuilt clutch slave cyl for an old Type 85 Audi years ago when I lived overseas, was only about £35 IIRC. I'd rather put a rebuilt one in if it is a proven and successful route like the Audi clutch cyl, rather than paying ££over-the-odds for the last new one in captivity or putting a second hand one of similar age/mileage as the one that just failed and having to do it all over again weeks/months later. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 15th Aug 2013 at 21:12
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Has anyone found anywhere that sells a boot (sort of like a cv boot) that is the correct size to go over the ram? Mine doesnt have a cover at all since the old plastic bag was ripped and useless when i replaced the ram. Dont want to destroy another ram! |
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 12:43
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #21
didn't owain find one? or did he make one from something?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 13:34
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #22
0wain improvised with a rubble sack IIRC. That boi has one hell of an imagination.________________________________________ |
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 13:37
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rikky
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i thought he went one better and put an airbus a380 wing just over the rack?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 13:39
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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Niall wrote: Has anyone found anywhere that sells a boot (sort of like a cv boot) that is the correct size to go over the ram? Mine doesnt have a cover at all since the old plastic bag was ripped and useless when i replaced the ram. Dont want to destroy another ram! Part of a Bike inner tube ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 16th Aug 2013 at 22:53
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