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walker_texasranger

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I literally cut my fuel bill by more than half when I bought my HDi going from a GTi-6 doing the same round town drive to work every day. They cost f**k all to run and when a bit breaks you just go to your local scrappy and Roberts your mothers brother.

Plus they are sub 1k for a half decent one and they handle well!

Win Win Win Yes

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Posted 27th Jul 2013 at 21:34
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DPF and EGR deletes are avail for most cars.

Can't understand people having DPF's regenerated when its as cheap to remove and get it removed from ecuDunno


Get caught with a car and the dpf deleted is an offence, chances are your unlikely to get caught but theres always that chance.

Carl


Really? Where have you got that info from?

Decats on petrols I can understand, its a mot fail and the emissions would fail a road side test.

But a dpf is not part of a mot test?
And diesels only get a smoke test for emissions?

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Posted 27th Jul 2013 at 22:48
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walker_texasranger wrote:
I literally cut my fuel bill by more than half when I bought my HDi going from a GTi-6 doing the same round town drive to work every day. They cost f**k all to run and when a bit breaks you just go to your local scrappy and Roberts your mothers brother.

Plus they are sub 1k for a half decent one and they handle well!

Win Win Win Yes


Seen one for 600 with a mere 194k on it. Trouble is they're all battered. 4 different shades of colour, dents galore etc. I'm not too bothered about high miles but no one seems to look after them anymore.

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Posted 27th Jul 2013 at 23:08
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asim_pug306 wrote:
walker_texasranger wrote:
I literally cut my fuel bill by more than half when I bought my HDi going from a GTi-6 doing the same round town drive to work every day. They cost f**k all to run and when a bit breaks you just go to your local scrappy and Roberts your mothers brother.

Plus they are sub 1k for a half decent one and they handle well!

Win Win Win Yes


Seen one for 600 with a mere 194k on it. Trouble is they're all battered. 4 different shades of colour, dents galore etc. I'm not too bothered about high miles but no one seems to look after them anymore.


Mine had done 240k when I sold it, I put 20k on it in just over a year. Had to spend a bit on it but nothing major. It was a bit of a shed body wise but what do you expect for the mileage? There are some nice ones about but expect to pay a bit more. If you just want it as a mile muncher I wouldn't worry too much about it but thats just me... you still have the Rallye to polish Thumbs up

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Posted 28th Jul 2013 at 13:56
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seans6

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Clio dci, £30 road tax genuine 65 mpg, if you dont mind a small car. Remapped dci 100 with intercooler and decat will see 130bhp and over 200ft torque and still get 60mpg. Everything of a 172 fits aswell to an extent if you want to get giddy with suspension etc.

Most hdi 306s now are getting on a been to the moon and road tax like a 6 all imo of course.
Posted 28th Jul 2013 at 14:37
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Mines only done 133k and is in pretty good nick Big grin has enough subtle upgrades to make it look good and stop well go well etc its more than paid for itself in fuel already really.

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Posted 28th Jul 2013 at 15:23
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armzs16 wrote:
Mines only done 133k and is in pretty good nick Big grin has enough subtle upgrades to make it look good and stop well go well etc its more than paid for itself in fuel already really.
As I say, if you sell, we'll have it. If her mot on the zx starts to approach we'll have to get a different one. Hopefully a god one is common enough.

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Posted 28th Jul 2013 at 19:06
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I've been bidding on cars all day mate lol you'll probably get it sooner or later. Gonna stick 2 tyres on it next month as the rears are f**ked.

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Posted 28th Jul 2013 at 19:11
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walker_texasranger wrote:
asim_pug306 wrote:
walker_texasranger wrote:
I literally cut my fuel bill by more than half when I bought my HDi going from a GTi-6 doing the same round town drive to work every day. They cost f**k all to run and when a bit breaks you just go to your local scrappy and Roberts your mothers brother.

Plus they are sub 1k for a half decent one and they handle well!

Win Win Win Yes


Seen one for 600 with a mere 194k on it. Trouble is they're all battered. 4 different shades of colour, dents galore etc. I'm not too bothered about high miles but no one seems to look after them anymore.


Mine had done 240k when I sold it, I put 20k on it in just over a year. Had to spend a bit on it but nothing major. It was a bit of a shed body wise but what do you expect for the mileage? There are some nice ones about but expect to pay a bit more. If you just want it as a mile muncher I wouldn't worry too much about it but thats just me... you still have the Rallye to polish Thumbs up


Maybe selling the Rallye as I also have the Alfa to use as a "weekend car". Hmm Much to think about me thinks

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 00:31
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Sadly I have a 2.0 Xsara HDI 90bhp 5door. Its white. 86k on clocks and I paid sod all for it, £50 for an oil & brake service. Ive taken a bit of a chamce on it, but its already paying for itself. First tank of diesel averaged over 45 mpg, and that wasnt taking it easy... i filled it up last night after a 120mile motorway run and it averaged 58mpg. Its far too econonical and sensible though, it doesnt feel natural... so as soon as the 205 is ready expect to see it for sale!

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 00:56
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Post #36
Why not C5 VTR+ ?
160 hp and it could be tweaked easily to 200hp with all the luxuries you get in a saloon car.
i wish i could live in the UK where you got such low prices for cars.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 06:00
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Post #37
mechanical_repairs wrote:
coskev wrote:
DPF and EGR deletes are avail for most cars.

Can't understand people having DPF's regenerated when its as cheap to remove and get it removed from ecuDunno


Get caught with a car and the dpf deleted is an offence, chances are your unlikely to get caught but theres always that chance.

Carl


If it's done properly nobody will ever tell the filter is not there, unless they somehow look into the DPF housing!

Just did a C4 Picasso 1.6HDI DPF off, and the owner went into a Citroen dealership and asked them to check the DPF condition and they told him it's okay, no need to worry about the filter for a while (which is now not even there LOL )

All the EGT, differential pressue, air mixer flap values change and look jsut how they should, although the filter is removed.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 07:57
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Post #38
Why the hell do these filters cost so much anyway. I remember when I had the Volvo, people were moaning because the part price was in the region of £700.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 08:14
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all the precious metals that are used in the original equipment units cost a fair bit.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 09:32
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I have a 1991 205 diesel. It cost me £300 and came with 1 year mot. Ive had it 2 1/2 years now and all its cost me is a heater matrix (£30) and tyres (13" ). It does 60mpg easily and i dont have to worry where i park it. I dont even have to lock it! Its great fun to drive and for the price, great vfm!
Im not vain enough to worry what people think of me when i drive it. You can laugh if you like but i dont care because it so cheap, it saves me soo much money to put towards my other car Smile

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 11:54
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Xsara HDI 110 Job done Thumbs up
Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 12:05
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As per ratman.

It was a tossup between 306 and Xsara when I got my HDi and I preferred the shape of the 306, but the 110 engine setup in the Xsara lends itself to a light tune much better. Cheap as chips too.

As for longevity it has no DPF and mine is purring along still 8 years later.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 12:11
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I will be selling my 306 HDi next month its intercooled so 150 bhp but will give 50 mpg average.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 15:11
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bellcp306td wrote:
I will be selling my 306 HDi next month its intercooled so 150 bhp but will give 50 mpg average.


Have you been drinking? 150bhp from an intercooler? Laugh my ass off
Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 15:21
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no need, they're quick enough as they are. they give a 6 a run for their money - you may have heard?

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Best bit is being able to wear a glove with pride at the fuel station.

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    bellcp306td

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    Yes ok smart ass. a full fat remap and 22psi boost

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    rikky wrote:
    no need, they're quick enough as they are. they give a 6 a run for their money - you may have heard?


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    bellcp306td wrote:
    Yes ok smart ass. a full fat remap and 22psi boost


    Oh really? LOL
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    asim_pug306 wrote:
    walker_texasranger wrote:
    I literally cut my fuel bill by more than half when I bought my HDi going from a GTi-6 doing the same round town drive to work every day. They cost f**k all to run and when a bit breaks you just go to your local scrappy and Roberts your mothers brother.

    Plus they are sub 1k for a half decent one and they handle well!

    Win Win Win Yes


    Seen one for 600 with a mere 194k on it. Trouble is they're all battered. 4 different shades of colour, dents galore etc. I'm not too bothered about high miles but no one seems to look after them anymore.


    Mine's not a shed, but then I look after her don't plan on selling it for the time being. Mines on 256K and counting, drives lovely. Love

    Xsaras are cheap compared to the 306, and of course newer in most HDis.

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