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Right, a few people want the conversion and I would think we're all in the same boat with trusting Grayston.

Basically, Peugeot Sport items will cost around £170 or Grayston at around £40. There will be a HUGE difference in quality, that isn't to say that Grayston won't be fit for purpose however.


What are our feelings? Is it worth contacting a company that could produce the studs and nuts? I suspect we'll not save much on the AI-Tech made parts available from Demon Tweeks

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Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 13:24
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whats the advantage to a stud conversion?
Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 13:25
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you can have different wheels! Yes

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drewhughes wrote:
whats the advantage to a stud conversion?

Easier to fit the wheels back on

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Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 13:33
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buzzbrightyear wrote:
drewhughes wrote:
whats the advantage to a stud conversion?

Easier to fit the wheels back on


Doh that kind of stud conversion!,...

I looked into this you can get some nice Shiny Nuts!
and yeah obviously easier to fit wheels!

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Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 13:36
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Easier to fit wheels

Easier to fit wheels with spacers (using long studs and open ended nuts)

I guess it looks like a Micra too?

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Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 13:54
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Speedshack do studs that I know a few people run with good results. Might be worth contacting them?

I'm interested but obviously need a price or a rough idea before I can confirm completely.

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demondriverdan wrote:
Speedshack do studs that I know a few people run with good results. Might be worth contacting them?

I'm interested but obviously need a price or a rough idea before I can confirm completely.


Speedshack actually do a group discount for multiples. They also sell Grayston parts, which a search on here or 205 drivers will throw up a few Q.C. issues with nuts tapped off centre or with s**t threads.

You'll also find people who have run them for years without issue.

My main issue is that with Grayston, there's thread into hub > shoulder > wheel nut thread. The shoulder smaller than pitch diameter so there's no physical 'stop'. You rely on loctite to keep the stud captive.

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I'm a bit confused, But if we get ones that are definitley good quality and are pretty inexpensive i might be interested Smile

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If a wheel decides to come off it means you are less likely to have a damaged wing like what happened to mine.

For a proper fit, always tap every hole for each stud, iv used three so the forth iv used a locking bolt and used the spare for other cars so wheels go on easy.

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how often do wheels come off tho?
Actually It happened to me Once in a small van but I'd only had it 2 days so f**k knows who had been working on it.
I'd be up for it if the quality was top notch but I'd rather have the standard bolts than some s**tty cheap stud conversion

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Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 14:14
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buying them for the sake of it FTW

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3mm drill bit through each stud and 4 R clips holding you wheel on for quick release FTW

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    rikky wrote:
    buying them for the sake of it FTW


    get them because you can

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    Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 14:23
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    Well, the Grayston bits will be usable but won't leave you wiping up after yourself after you've inspected the threads. But then even retail, they're less than £40.

    The Pug Sport will be much more similar to the AI Tech items and will be great quality and more than likely have a little lead on the stud to get the wheel on even easier.

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    If the wheels come loose the studs will just bend/snap anyway, still f**k yer wing up.

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    The picture WelshPug has put up is of Pug Sport items from France that an ex-member on here managed to sort out. Rumour has it they're on the go on 106RR forum, but the thread looked dead the last I saw.

    As you can see, the shoulder is nominal width so will provide a stop when fastening into hub

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    Posted 23rd Jul 2013 at 14:42
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    welshpug!

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    they weren't pug sport items but made to the same spec.

    http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2008/showthread.php?p=835320

    http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=107525

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    Would it be possible to do a group by on just the studs? Don't think there'd be any problem with using Grayston nuts on decent studs?

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    welshpug!

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    I'd rather use the matching ones tbh.

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    That's fair, was just an idea really!

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    you could do it, no reason not to specifically, but given the quality has been hit an miss I'd not risk it personally.

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    Right chaps, there we go.

    I'd be happier paying £100 for a decent set as above rather than the £55 I've been quoted for Grayston bits

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    Those are the studs I have fitted, 12.9 so less likely to all break if a wheel decided to come off again the studs will give you a bit of extra time. There was no signs of the wheel coming off when it happened, wih studs at least you get a saving grace.

    Just another little reason to have them, I wouldn't tough any less than 12.9 though especially for semi track use etc.

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