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On the way to work this morning I noticed that the exhaust note of the car is a fair bit deeper than normal, and sounds a bit like the chavvy backbox I had on my other 306 (this one's a standard exhaust). It did not sound like this yesterday, and it was like this on the way home as well.

The engine pulls just as well as before as far as I can tell, and the revs climb just the same, but seem to be a tiny bit slower to fall (although I could be imagining this part).

Over the weekend I'm going to have a proper look around the car to see what this might be, my first thought was that my cat is on the way out and the inside has collapsed, thus leaving much less of a restriction in the exhaust. I could hear no rattling though.

At this stage, if anyone has any ideas what this might be, or anything else I should check in order to narrow the cause down then your advice would be much appreciated.

Will update with findings once I've had a proper play around.

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Posted 14th Jun 2013 at 18:57
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One of the two exhaust joints leaking??

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Posted 14th Jun 2013 at 20:14
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Hole. Get underneath with it running and have a look.

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  • Posted 14th Jun 2013 at 20:29
    RetroPug

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    Post #4
    Okay so probably a hole/leak somewhere.
    Yep, was planning on having it up on stands and having a good look over the whole exhaust.

    Thanks.

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    Posted 14th Jun 2013 at 20:50
    mik

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    Look at the rear of the cat a few inches in front of where it joins to the mid-section, there is a weakness there. This went with very little warning on mine, and got worse very quickly to the point where it was split almost all the way around - you could see daylight through the split - and the noise was deafening, all within about 40 miles. Got it welded and it is holding up so far but replacing cat time is coming I reckon.

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    Posted 14th Jun 2013 at 23:23
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    My Genuine Back Box Got Louder. It Developed A Small Hole Under Where The Pipe Enters The Back boxDunno
    Posted 15th Jun 2013 at 00:09
    eliotrw

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    mik wrote:
    Look at the rear of the cat a few inches in front of where it joins to the mid-section, there is a weakness there. This went with very little warning on mine, and got worse very quickly to the point where it was split almost all the way around - you could see daylight through the split - and the noise was deafening, all within about 40 miles. Got it welded and it is holding up so far but replacing cat time is coming I reckon.

    Exact same happened to me literally one week after it passed an mot.

    Crazy how fast they split when they do

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    Posted 15th Jun 2013 at 17:01
    RetroPug

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    mik wrote:
    Look at the rear of the cat a few inches in front of where it joins to the mid-section, there is a weakness there. This went with very little warning on mine, and got worse very quickly to the point where it was split almost all the way around - you could see daylight through the split - and the noise was deafening, all within about 40 miles. Got it welded and it is holding up so far but replacing cat time is coming I reckon.

    I've been really busy lately, this is what has happened though.

    I'll hopefully be getting it welded up soon.

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    Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 17:38
    beez_neez_gt

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    Sounds more like an air leak around filter area.

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    Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 17:55
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    It is definitely the cat splitting away from the centre section. I can see the split and feel all of the air coming out of there, there's barely any coming out of the end of the exhaust anymore!

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    Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 18:02
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    RetroPug wrote:
    It is definitely the cat splitting away from the centre section. I can see the split and feel all of the air coming out of there, there's barely any coming out of the end of the exhaust anymore!


    I feel your pain.

    I've got a major leak just before the cat (cat has been welded in on mine) and im just waiting for it to snap off completely....got a 2nd hand cat and Peugeot exhaust system ready to put on but its finding the time and someone to do it who wont rip me off

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    Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 18:15
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    This happened to me once, 5 minutes later the whole thing came apart and started sparking along the ground through the town centre. Joy. Doh

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    Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 01:06
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    mellowr1 wrote:
    My Genuine Back Box Got Louder. It Developed A Small Hole Under Where The Pipe Enters The Back boxDunno


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    Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 11:13
    beez_neez_gt

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    -1 for missing box.

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    +1 for the 5th and 6th cylinders kicking in. they tend to do that at this age of these cars now

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    Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 11:53
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    pebbles167 wrote:
    This happened to me once, 5 minutes later the whole thing came apart and started sparking along the ground through the town centre. Joy. Doh


    I was on the motorway when mine went. Having only just put a brand new OE centre section on I was not keen on it dragging its @r$e around the M25. Luckily it held together long enough to get it somewhere to sort it.

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    Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 17:49
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    I got it welded up for a contribution to the coffee fund and it's still holding out.

    Good result.

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    Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 17:14
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    glad to hear its sorted.

    for future reference, if you place your hand over the exhaust tip to block it (wear gloves if hot) any holes (even tiny ones )will prounouce themselves quite clearly with a hissing noise.

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    Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 02:24
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    jimmyhackers wrote:
    glad to hear its sorted.

    for future reference, if you place your hand over the exhaust tip to block it (wear gloves if hot) any holes (even tiny ones )will prounouce themselves quite clearly with a hissing noise.


    I tried this and a snake bit me. Maybe I'll turn my engine on next time I hear a hissing noise
    Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 12:54
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    gilesy wrote:
    jimmyhackers wrote:
    glad to hear its sorted.

    for future reference, if you place your hand over the exhaust tip to block it (wear gloves if hot) any holes (even tiny ones )will prounouce themselves quite clearly with a hissing noise.


    I tried this and a snake bit me. Maybe I'll turn my engine on next time I hear a hissing noise


    +5 for gilesy

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    Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 13:15
    RetroPug

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    jimmyhackers wrote:
    glad to hear its sorted.

    for future reference, if you place your hand over the exhaust tip to block it (wear gloves if hot) any holes (even tiny ones )will prounouce themselves quite clearly with a hissing noise.


    Good tip, in this case the hole was very, very easy to find as the cat split away from the exhaust the whole circumference of it. LOL

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