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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #1
I'm researching the required parts/alterations needed to put a gti6 into a 205 gti, so far i've come up with this:Reangled exhaust manifold Thermostat/radiator hose adaptor Relocate radiator Wiring loom What clutch do i use to suit 205 cable, Mi16? or is there a cable that will work with the push pull setup? What do i do about master cylinder clearance, heard that i need to use a base model servo and cylinder? |
 Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:43
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #2
From what i remember you can use standard 205 clutch cable. Other than that i dont know! why do you want to do that tho? you have 2 306s there. just get the blue one built up for track and black for road  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:47
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
chris, ive always loved the 205 and i'm now thinking about about getting one, weighs less than a 306 plus they are proper old school cool. totally standard looking 205 with 6 engine and chassis mods would do me fine |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:49
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Iv used a 406 master cylinder with 6 brakes, its a bit bigger and allows the pedal bite not too low, it feels as it was with old 1.9 brakes i had before.Iv used mi16 clutch, be3 clutch fork and be3 gear arm. Iv used vts g box so used 1.9 diff using vts crown wheel so 205/309 d shafts can be used. There are other ways but thats how i did mine. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:50
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I'm running a vts box and gti6 clutch with a 205 cable You need to trim some of the plastic cam belt housing to get the master cylinder to fit  I have a whole car (205 with gti6 in) you can purchase  |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:50
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #6
BBB, you seem to have everything i want lol. whats the crack with fitting a base spec servo, guessing its smaller? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:52
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #7
You don't needto relocate the radiator. You'll have to modify the fan housing a bit to clear the manifold.________________________________________  |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:54
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #8
you don't need to trim anything if you adjust the pedal box so the servo is raised doing mine now and pretty much tackled everything now but do not under estimate how much you need.. a proper job means making it tidy and you'll need like water pipes and what not. plenty of bodges toucan do but worth doing right IMO budget about £1k for bits alone I've done so far: cambelt, waterpump, clutch (valeo), 1.6 gti box, BBM hoses and BBM thermostat adapter, solid lower pulley, wiring loom (DIY), tacho mod (mei), oil pressure mod, also needed 1.9 hubs struts and shafts as the 1.6 ones were no good. rad needs lowering still to clear inlet and exhaust manifold to reangle. but I'm doing it from bare shell, so you can do it on a smaller budget if you're in a rush ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 21:57
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #9
you do encounter loads of small things so its hard to itemise it as such. once you're stuck in you'll see why it takes a bit longer than you'd plannedoh moving the wiring to the opposite side of the bulkhead too ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:00
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I did that, elongated the servo holes higher yet still needed to sort the cam housing. Each 205 has different tolerances so would be a good idea to buy a car already done then modifi it how u want it and recon the engine etc so u know its top. You can only elongate so far before servo hits the car and wont go anyhigher u see.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:03
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i already know about having to move wiring, what o/e hoses can i use? any pics of peddle box mods? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Hoses, use bbm gti6/205 kit, easy peasy.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:06
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #13
hmm, i hate buying shiny! although if i cant tidily reuse mix n match of 306/205 hoses then bbm it would be |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:08
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #14
T99PUG wrote: BBB, you seem to have everything i want lol. whats the crack with fitting a base spec servo, guessing its smaller? Give me £1300 and you can have the whole car |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:09
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #15
pics please, is she a taxed and tested runner? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:14
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Some 205's need very little cam cover modification, others loads like mine. However i have all the strength plates fitted so did make the master cy come out more.I agree using all BBM engine mounts and water hoses in any colour u wish, also the 106 blank one for the right side header tank block if ph 2. I have a spare one if u need it. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:18
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #17
don't forget uprated lower mount, lambda boss adding in and an altered downpipe too to mate to a centre section________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:32
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Yeah it's surprising how much shells differ. My servo is miles away from the cover so I didn't need to touch it. Others have had to grind a fair bit off. Until you pop the engine in you don't know. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:37
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Some info________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:43
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Jake
Regular  Location: Durham Registered: 26 Mar 2012 Posts: 251 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Seb, I like your thinking Mine just uses 306 gti6 hoses but I want them changed do the BBM kit. I'm waiting for second hand ones to pop up coz I'm not paying that much for hoses! ________________________________________ The 205205 GTI6 For Sale Off Racing! |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:47
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footah212
Senior User  Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I got an unused mi16 clutch in garage if you looking for one Seb ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:47
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Buy a 309. Be different  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:52
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #23
make sure it's the right one, only one of them works and it's the 1.9 one, and a lot of the time you end up with a the 2.0 onemine's a genuine valeo one, part no 801042, if that helps for cross-referencing ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:52
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I've been looking for a while for a nice condition 205 GTi6, but all of them seem to be either in tatters or totally stripped and caged. I've got my 306 as a track slag, want something to mess about with on the road________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:54
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
Post #25
rikky wrote: make sure it's the right one, only one of them works and it's the 1.9 one, and a lot of the time you end up with a the 2.0 one mine's a genuine valeo one, part no 801042, if that helps for cross-referencing It's the right one. It was fitted to my old 6 engined 309 track car. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:58
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