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 blacky
Junior User  Location: castleford Registered: 13 Jul 2012 Posts: 80 Status: Offline |
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Just havin a browse through the 306 oc site and was wondering why everyone seems to wanna drop hdi lumps ect in a 306,i mean dont get me wrong there ok for workhorses and commuting but wheres the fun in driving a diesel 306,i can understand for insurance purposes but why not drop a 6 engine in a hdi,all i seem to read is it would be better with a hdi lump in it,it might just be me cos am not one for bummin dervs and surley the 6 will still outrun a tuned log burner |
 Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #2
why don't you ask them?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:13
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blacky
Junior User Location: castleford Registered: 13 Jul 2012 Posts: 80 Status: Offline |
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So i should,just baffles me how they think why a hdi lump would be better than a 6 lump and would a 6 still outsprint a tuned hdi |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:22
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Not everyone wants outright speed from their daily driver. A GTi6 isn't exactly spectacular in a straight line but they are fun in the corners, so matching a cheaper & more efficient workhorse engine into a chassis that takes corners well makes a lot of sense to me. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:29
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Times change.The majority of pre 20 year old 306 owners you meet want mega MPG, be able to say they have a turbo and fit large colourful stickers up the side of the windscreen. Insurance costs probably dictate what is practical also. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:32
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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i have a hdi, the boost is pretty phenominal and feels like a Focus RS torque steering. dangti6 also has one and has the same problems. they are very quick indeed. i had a gti6 and got rid of it and bought a 3dr 306 hdi and put a gti6 interior in it. it's practically the same car but different fueli really struggle keeping the steering wheel straight ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:35
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #7
rikky wrote: i really struggle keeping the steering wheel straight Ever thought of joining a gym Rikky?  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 11:43
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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i don't need to go to a gym and pay a monthly fee, drink bottled water and wear a tank top to keep fit  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 12:04
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: rikky wrote: i really struggle keeping the steering wheel straight Ever thought of joining a gym Rikky?   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 12:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Dturbo hdi's attract a premium, for those not scared of a spanner a git6 is an ideal base as theyre cheap and the same spec nearly.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 13:29
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: i don't need to go to a gym and pay a monthly fee, drink bottled water and wear a tank top to keep fit Plenty of w**king keeps you fit I'm sure! ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 15:54
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: rikky wrote: i really struggle keeping the steering wheel straight Ever thought of joining a gym Rikky? He owns one and launders his crack money through it  |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 16:07
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #13
because a mildly tuned one will easily keep with a gti except it will still do 50mpg. Tuning is generally cheaper and you have to drive a tuned one to see how fun they are. Derv tuning will be the way forwards in the very near future. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 16:54
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
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Niall wrote: Derv tuning will be the way forwards in the very near future. You know, if you'd of said that 10 years ago I'd have laughed you out of town, but considering that a lot of the BTCC cars are now diesel it does make perfect sense. What a difference a few years in technological advancements makes...  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:02
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Ed_van_dijk
Senior User  Location: Halesworth Registered: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 636 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Shame they smoke like f**k when tuned. ________________________________________ Astor 6 |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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naah, diesel BTCC cars are so 2009, they're all 1.6 turbo direct injection now.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:10
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blacky
Junior User Location: castleford Registered: 13 Jul 2012 Posts: 80 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I see your point niall,in that case if you have a standard 6 engine wouldnt you just be better off gettin rid and buyin a hdi if you can squeeze near enough the same kinda performance from a mildly tuned one and as rikky said bang a 6 interior in,my question is probabily silly but it just baffled me why we drive gti6 supposidly been the 306 flagship model wen most seem to think you can have alot more fun in a hdi,with them been only 90 hp standard surley they cant be that reliable with some of the 200 hp some of them claim to be,im going to find someone to take me for a blast in one |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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Peugeot do a 170 bhp 2.0 HDI in newer stuff, it is 16v mind, so basic lump is more like the 136 bhp engine though the bottom end is much the same.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:19
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #19
blacky wrote: I see your point niall,in that case if you have a standard 6 engine wouldnt you just be better off gettin rid and buyin a hdi if you can squeeze near enough the same kinda performance from a mildly tuned one and as rikky said bang a 6 interior in,my question is probabily silly but it just baffled me why we drive gti6 supposidly been the 306 flagship model wen most seem to think you can have alot more fun in a hdi,with them been only 90 hp standard surley they cant be that reliable with some of the 200 hp some of them claim to be,im going to find someone to take me for a blast in one All the mapped ones ive seen with a big turbo on have been reliable. Dont get me wrong, they might be just as fast in that form but it does come down to personal preference with the petrol/derv debate. Personally, i love the noise and fun of my 6 screaming to 7k. In a HDi, they always sound pretty dull. Other thing is quite often, they arent as quick as they feel. Alot of people on OC say "oh my HDi is easily quicker than a 6" when in fact, its not (i even had to prove this to someone just the other week lol). Just the boost makes it feel quicker. Oh and diesel smells s**t  |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:23
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blacky
Junior User Location: castleford Registered: 13 Jul 2012 Posts: 80 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Cheers for clearing that up for me welshpug,looks like im gonna have to get the overtime in and source a supercharger after baby no 2 arrives so i dont get embarrased at the lights by hdi's |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:26
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dendle89
Senior User  Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Had a mate that spent thousands on his HDi claiming it to be 170bhp, in a straight line he wasn't close and in the bends he was nowhere to be seen, but yea it was reliable engine but everything else fell apart lol________________________________________ Team 6 Cylinders |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 17:28
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #22
If you know where the power is in your rev range with a gti6 there are not many diesels that are faster on the road, and tuned hdis are nowhere near! I love all these reps  that think there big torque diesels rule the road ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 18:28
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Diesel is great for workhorses - wouldn't have it any other way, however in terms of performance, give me something I can fill up with sweet smelling V-Power Unleaded anyday and unleash the revs. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 18:54
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Clearly a troll tbh.I've had my HDi for 8 years now and love it to bits, despite it having completed a trip to the moon and commenced the return leg. Literally put fuel in and drive - no bother. I do, as Stan infers, get a kick out of having a thirsty petrol sitting at home. I have a silly V8 to drive when i feel like it, but sometimes I am quite happy plodding along in my derv. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 20:07
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #25
f**k dervs. I would always stick with petrol.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2013 at 20:48
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