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205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread
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Author | Subject: Head Gasket may not be blown? |
jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Is it possible to blow the head gasket and not lose compression on the cylinder? I've just tested mine today to see which cylinders it had gone on and there is no loss of compression on any of the cylinders, I'm thinking the leak may only be oil to water through the head. Has anyone had this happen to them before? Could there be another reason my radiator has mayo'd up?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:26
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Can happen for sure Get the fumes in the header tank 'sniffed' for signs of combustion gasses Could be your oil cooler,but most likely is gasket. Then again it could be head cracked,or block cracked,looking on the bright side like........ ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:29
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I've got another engine to put into it, it's in the garage waiting to go in ATM, I was just wondering whether the old engine is worth anything, if it is just the gasket then I will probably rebuild it, I've not done a full engine rebuild before, only heads so thought I might aswell give it a go. It hasn't lost any power though. I assume that I should see a crack straight away when I pull the lump out or can they be hairline inside the engine, somewhere that I won't see it________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:34
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Can be hard to find.Are you losing coolant or oil? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:43
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Coolant, over a very long period of time though. Top it up once every 3 months or so, the oil hasn't changed colour at all either, it is just the radiator cap that has mayo'd________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:45
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jord294
Seasoned Pro Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Does it miss for a few seconds when cold?________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:51
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #7
No, I started it the other day (hasn't been started for 18 months mind. Head gasket was why it went off anyway) turned over kicked in first time even on the old petrol and revved clean all the way. I am thinking of changing the radiator (that is gone, which is why I thought the head had gone) and just running it until the end of it's life. Spend a bit more time on the engine in my garage, getting it rebuilt and some shiny bits for it off RichW________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 22:57
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Dont do that if it is gone you mite cause some serious damage. Get a sniff test done. You may just have a small leak in the cooling system________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 07:02
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Would a small leak result in the radiator having discolouration on the filler cap? I know the rad has a hole so that is one that can be plugged. What I am worried about is that if I change the rad and then there is still the leak, then the new radiator will get gunked up with the oil from the head gasket going. Will this happen damage the new radiator or can this just be flushed out?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 08:03
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #10
It can be flushed but is a pain to get it all out.It's possible your oil heat exchanger could be weeping oil into your water system, this was the cause of my last rallye's demise as mine went big time and 2 weeks after fixing it the bottom end went. Easy way to check this is take both the water pipes off, join them together temporarily so you can run the car for a bit and see if anything comes out of the metal pipes on the exchanger, if it does then there's your problem. ________________________________________ Ryan |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 10:47
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Well the new radiator I am fitting is a Nissen (hasn't arrived yet) but I'm sure they don't have the built in heat exchanger so I would say that I will have to go for a seperate oil cooler if I am going to run it on the track. I've spoke to people that say the oil doesn't get that warm but without this heat exchanger I thought it will?How terminal is it going to be if there has been water getting into the oil this way, I can't hear any knocking or ticking from the engine so is it a case of fix this problem and I could be fine with the engine or is it just a waiting game until it does go? ________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 13:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Does the Nissens rad you are buying come with the take-off pipe on the side of the filling bottle for the heat exchanger or not?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 13:28
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I've not received it yet, I've bought it off one of the members off here and forgot to ask________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 13:35
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #14
stan_306gti6 wrote: Mine did..... Does the Nissens rad you are buying come with the take-off pipe on the side of the filling bottle for the heat exchanger or not? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 15:20
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dendle89
Senior User Location: Cardiff Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 827 Status: Offline |
Post #15
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Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 15:25
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Yes, if the rad is listed for your car then it should have the take-off. Nissen rads listed for the XSi don't.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 29th Jan 2013 at 06:38
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Had 3 oil coolers go on various customers cars. |
Posted 29th Jan 2013 at 09:37
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Can I/is it advised to blank off the take of on the radiator and run a seperate oil cooler instead then?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 29th Jan 2013 at 09:59
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