displaying posts 1 to 25 of 33

Pages (2): [1] 2

Author Subject: Evans Powercool?
jamiek_uk2000

Seasoned Pro

Location: Llanelli

Registered: 18 Apr 2009

Posts: 1,925

Status: Offline

Post #1
Has anyone on here got any experience in using Evans Powercool 180? I've heard some awesome reviews with people saying it is a must have for track days, especially since the 6 runs at such a high temperature anyway (Mine even higher when the head gasket went)

Since it doesn't boil till 180 degree's then there is no pressure in the system as it doesn't expand, so it is meant to put a lot less pressure on the engine aswell. I just wanted to know if there is anything to look out for when using it?

Plus does anyone know the capacity of the cooling system on a 6?

________________________________________

205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!
306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread

Looking for:
VTS P1 Rack
PR1.2 16"
Posted 15th Jan 2013 at 23:38
swiftyboi006

Seasoned Pro

Location: Maidenhead

Registered: 12 Apr 2010

Posts: 2,110

Status: Offline

Post #2
Im sure the coolin system holds about 6 litres

________________________________________

cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)
blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD
Black p3 Love
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 13:53
JWP EFi

Turbo Legend!

Location: edinburgh

Registered: 07 Mar 2010

Posts: 2,163

Status: Offline

Post #3
guy i know with a 300 odd bhp 205 turbo swears by this stuff, difference was night and day apparantly
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 21:58
bigbadbowen

Seasoned Pro

Location: Winchester

Registered: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 13,753

Status: Offline

Post #4
Expensive stuff and you need the prep stuff first as well Yes
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:08
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #5
Worse cooling than plain old water.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:11
jamiek_uk2000

Seasoned Pro

Location: Llanelli

Registered: 18 Apr 2009

Posts: 1,925

Status: Offline

Post #6
Well contrasting reports there, so still up in the air. I've read that almost anyone with a turbo/supercharger swears by it, but nothing so far on the N/A side of things.

What is so bad about it then Phillip, plus since your here what is the price on your lower strut braces and when are you expecting to get the uppers designed?

________________________________________

205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!
306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread

Looking for:
VTS P1 Rack
PR1.2 16"
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:25
JWP EFi

Turbo Legend!

Location: edinburgh

Registered: 07 Mar 2010

Posts: 2,163

Status: Offline

Post #7
bigbadbowen wrote:
Expensive stuff and you need the prep stuff first as well Yes


£70 for 5 litres, whats the prep stuff?
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:25
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #8
1.) The amount of hassle needed to flush the system down plus filling it (plus carrying a bottle everywhere in case you spring a leak...)

2.) The price.

3.) It's worse at carrying heat away than water is. So the engine runs hotter.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:29
JWP EFi

Turbo Legend!

Location: edinburgh

Registered: 07 Mar 2010

Posts: 2,163

Status: Offline

Post #9
so whats the idea behind it? other than being good at preventing corrosion?

i remember watching a thing on wheeler dealers about this stuff, on an old Triumph because it didnt

rot the head gasket
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:35
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #10
Making someone a lot of money is the idea behind it.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:38
JWP EFi

Turbo Legend!

Location: edinburgh

Registered: 07 Mar 2010

Posts: 2,163

Status: Offline

Post #11
i'm assuming this is similar stuff to 'Water wetter' that i put in my trials bike back in the day
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:43
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #12
No, it's similar to just sticking pure glycol straight in the cooling system. 'Water Wetter' is a surface tension modifier, like washing up liquid.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:46
JWP EFi

Turbo Legend!

Location: edinburgh

Registered: 07 Mar 2010

Posts: 2,163

Status: Offline

Post #13
pointless then, other than stopping corrosion
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 22:47
bigbadbowen

Seasoned Pro

Location: Winchester

Registered: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 13,753

Status: Offline

Post #14
Has a higher boiling point ?
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 23:00
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #15
Doesn't really help much when the engine would be overheating by then anyway Big grin

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 23:54
jamiek_uk2000

Seasoned Pro

Location: Llanelli

Registered: 18 Apr 2009

Posts: 1,925

Status: Offline

Post #16
Well I assumed (probably incorrectly) if you are running this in the car and it has a boiling point then the car isn't overheating because it is the water that is overheating in the car? The metal engine, gaskets and motor oil are all designed to much higher temps so it isn't overheating it is just running hot. Since the water isn't boiling there is nothing putting extra pressure on the system so shouldn't blow anything either?

________________________________________

205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!
306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread

Looking for:
VTS P1 Rack
PR1.2 16"
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 09:54
eliotrw

Seasoned Pro

Location: Southwark

Registered: 18 Jul 2010

Posts: 4,864

Status: Offline

Post #17
Also it just seems like one of those things where they are like

"Buy this, It doesn't matter how hot your engine is now"

Where are personally i would think, Just sort out your issue, or upgraded the cooling system properly.

The liquid is 70 quid but a new nissens rad is sometimes as low as 130
Then you have better fans etc which imo will all work out as better value.

________________________________________

Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 11:19
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #18
jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
Well I assumed (probably incorrectly) if you are running this in the car and it has a boiling point then the car isn't overheating because it is the water that is overheating in the car? The metal engine, gaskets and motor oil are all designed to much higher temps so it isn't overheating it is just running hot. Since the water isn't boiling there is nothing putting extra pressure on the system so shouldn't blow anything either?


If the coolant is running hotter, then the hotspots they babble on about within the engine are running hotter, potentially leading to pre-ignition, plug failure, bearing failure because the oil will be taking so much more heat away, etc, etc.
Also, the pressure in the cooling system is sweet naff all even when boiling compared to internal pressures and oil pressure, etc. The only reason it looks so bad when you spring a leak is because once the pressure escapes the boiling point of the coolant drops and it all rapidly boils off, and with the expansion rate of steam compared the volume of water, it looks like massive amounts of pressure. It's not.
And of course, the problem there is, it's the leak that sets it off in the first place, not vice versa.

If you have a massively overkill cooling system and it's for a mueseum piece so you don't have to worry about coolant changes/corrosion, maybe you'd do it (Or just stick damn near straight antifreeze in) But otherwise. No.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 11:29
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

Location: Kent

Registered: 18 Jan 2004

Posts: 21,768

Status: Offline

Post #19
Museum piece you say Phil? Hmm

________________________________________

"Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"
Peugeot 306 GTi-6
2000 (X), Moonstone Love
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 11:57
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #20
LOL

You better order some for Wayne while you're at it.

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:02
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

Location: Kent

Registered: 18 Jan 2004

Posts: 21,768

Status: Offline

Post #21
I'll be changing my coolant in early March mate, it's only been in there 18 months so not too long. Should be fine. Cool

________________________________________

"Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"
Peugeot 306 GTi-6
2000 (X), Moonstone Love
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:08
jamiek_uk2000

Seasoned Pro

Location: Llanelli

Registered: 18 Apr 2009

Posts: 1,925

Status: Offline

Post #22
Decision made then, some distilled water and a good quality anti-freeze. I'll keep my mouth shut next time aswell Smile

________________________________________

205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!
306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread

Looking for:
VTS P1 Rack
PR1.2 16"
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:15
phillipm

Seasoned Pro

Location: Rotherham

Registered: 15 Oct 2006

Posts: 20,607

Status: Offline

Post #23
If you don't ask.....

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:27
welshpug!

Capt Pedantic

Location: Bigend, Wales.

Registered: 27 Mar 2007

Posts: 25,838

Status: Offline

Post #24
these engines run most efficiently around 88-89 degrees, so having a higher boiling point is, pointless.

________________________________________

need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com

Bring on the Trumpets.

Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:45
jamiek_uk2000

Seasoned Pro

Location: Llanelli

Registered: 18 Apr 2009

Posts: 1,925

Status: Offline

Post #25
Ah right, that is the answer I needed. That's why when the head gasket went on mine it didn't like running at 110 in traffic then? Somehow the little thing has been parked up for 18 months whilst I get some money together, put jump leads on it and it started first time even with the old petrol in it. Who said that Peugeot are badly made cars!

________________________________________

205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!
306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread

Looking for:
VTS P1 Rack
PR1.2 16"
Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 13:27

Pages (2): [1] 2

All times are GMT. The time is now 15:53

The Peugeot GTi-6 & Rallye Owners Club - ©2024 all rights reserved.

Please Note: The views and opinions found herein are those of individuals, and not of The Peugeot 306 GTi-6 & Rallye Owners Club or any individuals involved.
No responsibility is taken or assumed for any comments or statements made on, or in relation to, this website. Please see our updated privacy policy.